White House talks between Donald Trump and European leaders continued into the night yesterday, with plenty on the agenda including the shape of future security guarantees for Ukraine, and the prospect of a meeting between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky. The Ukrainian president made a noticeable effort to charm his US counterpart, but with disagreements over the need for a ceasefire and the issue of territory seemingly absent from discussions, are we any closer to the end of the war? We’re joined this week by Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the former Nato Secretary General and ex-prime minister of Denmark, who led a key international working group on security guarantees for Ukraine. Plus Vitaly gives Jamie his assessment of proceedings from DC, and we get the thoughts of Ukrainians experiencing the conflict close up. Today’s episode is presented by Jamie Coomarasamy and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Laurie Kalus and Polly Hope. The technical producer was James Piper. The social producer was Grace Braddock. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. Email
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