In this episode, Reginé Gilbert discusses the importance of accessibility in design, the current state of awareness, and the challenges designers and product managers face. She emphasises the need for a shift in mindset towards accessibility as a core aspect of design rather than an afterthought. The conversation explores the ROI of accessibility, the importance of user testing, and practical steps for advocates within organisations. Reginé also shares insights on learning resources and her upcoming books, highlighting the future of accessibility in the design industry. Takeaways • Accessibility is becoming a requirement for digital products. • Awareness of accessibility varies greatly among designers. • Implementing accessibility can initially seem like extra work, but it becomes easier over time. • Product managers often view accessibility as an additional requirement to push to later releases. • Quantifying the benefits of accessibility can be challenging but is essential for buy-in. • User testing with real people is crucial for understanding accessibility needs. • Starting with small changes can lead to significant improvements in accessibility. • There are certifications available for accessibility professionals. • YouTube and online resources are great starting points for learning about accessibility. • Building political capital is key to advocating for accessibility in organisations. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Accessibility in Design 01:10 - The Current State of Accessibility Awareness 02:55 - Designers' Responsibility Towards Accessibility 04:42 - Product Managers and Accessibility Challenges 08:51 - Quantifying the ROI of Accessibility 10:36 - Gathering User Feedback for Accessibility 13:07 - Advocating for Accessibility in Teams 16:19 - The Impact of Personal Experience on Accessibility Awareness 18:37 - Creativity Within Constraints 22:19 - The Role of AI in Accessibility 23:36 - Testing with Real Users for Accessibility 25:55 - Understanding Accessibility Through Personal Experiences 28:07 - Starting Your Journey in Accessibility 30:23 - The Value of Certifications in Accessibility 31:44 - Reginé's Upcoming Books and Their Impact 34:18 - The Future of Accessibility Legislation 39:24 - Navigating Organizational Change for Accessibility 45:22 - Connecting with Reginé Gilbert Don't forget to: 👍 Like this video if you found it helpful. 🔔 Subscribe to our channel for more insights. 💬 Share your thoughts or questions in the comments below! Follow Us: • LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-aligned-podcast-show/ • Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/ alignedpodcastshow / • TikTok : https://www.tiktok.com/@alignedpodcastshow • X : https://x.com/aligned_podcast