Francis is out of town this week and Daisy is joined by Tove Danovich, a journalist and writer who has featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Ringer, and Dirt. She is the author of the 'Under the Henfluence: Inside the World of Backyard Chickens and the People Who Love Them', an immersive blend of chicken-keeping memoir and animal welfare reporting. -- Tove Website Substack Instagram Bluesky -- Links & References Dirt x Boys Club: clone.fyi Tove's book list: Nine amazing books about animals Tove's climate change piece: On hope and hopelessness Daisy's essay: Attention is what makes us human __ Timestamps 00:00 Introducing Tove 01:50 Curiosity is the topic of life 06:49 Our relationship with urban wildlife 12:33 Impactful responses from Tove's readers 17:56 Chicken's in culture through the ages 22:04 The political power of the egg 27:00 The deeply feminist story of chickens and egg-money 31:32 Beekeeping and pollination myths 36:00 Nine amazing books about animals 41:17 The challenges of writing about climate and nature __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.