We are thrilled to have Reverend Kerra English , spiritual director, retreat leader, pastor, and a no bullshit guide join us today to talk about the many pathways of pilgrimage. In this invitational and thoughtful conversation Kerra talks to us about leading with curiosity, recognizing when things need to shift, and all the ways that pilgrimage is really about opening your eyes, your heart and your mind, to the world around you. When we are invited into new ways of knowing whether it be through a conversation with a fellow traveler, or through a Psilocybin study at John’s Hopkins, we become more ourselves. We are thankful to Kerra for her work in the world and for her new book dropping in June of 2025 True Awakening: The Highs, the Lows, and the Mess of Spiritual Transformation . Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways): Love is People By Mr. Rogers RUAH School Doug Ottati Kerra’s Website Chapters 00:00 The Essence of Love and Community 03:28 Curiosity as a Spiritual Gift 08:40 Understanding Pilgrimage 13:45 Navigating the Dark Night of the Soul 18:41 The Importance of Community and Vulnerability 21:47 Guidance Through Change and Despair 24:02 The Quest for Authentic Truth 25:34 Braving the Wilderness: Spiritual Journeys 27:56 Courageous Spirituality and Personal Growth 32:34 Transformation in the Dark 35:38 Exploring Psychedelic Spirituality 38:55 Building Community and Connection 43:05 Exploring Key Themes and Insights
