Can oil and gas really be a smart play for high-income professionals? In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Mark Fleming, petroleum engineer and Turbine Capital’s oil & gas advisor, to break it down. From the basics of how drilling works to the tax advantages that can offset W2 income, you’ll learn the realities of this often-misunderstood industry. The conversation covers political risk, environmental concerns, portfolio allocation, and many more. Whether you’re curious about non-op partnerships, cashflow timing, or long-term energy trends, this episode gives you the insider perspective every pilot-investor needs. Mark Fleming is a petroleum engineer and oil & gas advisor with over 20 years of experience across Chevron, Hess, and EOG. He has also advised major banks on energy lending and helped startups navigate the public markets. Today, Mark serves as Turbine Capital’s oil and gas advisor, guiding strategy and due diligence for private funds. His expertise spans drilling technology, unconventional plays, energy policy, and risk assessment, making him a trusted voice for investors seeking clarity in this complex sector. Show notes: (0:00) Intro (00:41) Why oil & gas still matters (05:20) Oil investing is long-term, not quick (08:16) Politics and pricing shape investor returns (11:42) Game-changing advances in drilling & fracking (13:03) ESG, environment, and energy reality (16:47) Oil plays vs. gas plays explained (19:26) Three ways to invest privately (24:21) Upstream, midstream, and key tax benefits (30:58) How to vet operators & reduce risk (45:05) Oil cashflow vs. real estate returns (49:22) Outro Helpful Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-e-fleming Turbine Capital: Iron Horse Energy Fund Guide to U.S. Tax benefits for Direct Oil & Gas Drilling Investments: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DZBu5zH8dpotRFijs6-VmJo1HF4EvIIu/view?usp=sharing Bettering Human Lives Liberty Energy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BqCoKUbcWBiaeY6g9l1DDsQFUY8Y8y82/view?usp=sharing The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power: https://a.co/d/bwwLzZq — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry. Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com ! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilots Check us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots : https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/ Follow us on X @IncomePilots : https://twitter.com/IncomePilots Get our updates on LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/ Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at
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