This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in March 2018. Adam McHugh is an author, former hospice chaplain, spiritual director, and minister, and now a wine tour guide and sommelier. The author of Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture , he is an ordained Presbyterian minister, having earned a Masters of Divinity and Masters of Theology in Greek New Testament from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the author of The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction . Since this interview was recorded he has written a memoir, Blood from a Stone . Adam lives in California’s Santa Ynez Valley, and may be the only person published in both Psychology Today and Wine Enthusiast . Links Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction Read the transcript of this podcast Highlights 4:30 Becoming an ordained minister 7:30 What led to writing Introverts in the Church 10:50 Explanation of introversion and extroversion 16:00 Problems that introverts experience at church 19:00 Understanding the discomfort of personal vulnerability and sharing beliefs as an expression of faith 22:00 Introverts generally prefer depth over breadth 24:00 The power of listening: experience at a hospital 30:00 Introverts and small talk 34:00 How introverts approach dealing with conflict and decisions 40:00 Silence, reverence, and the internal experience compared to active social environments 45:20 Cultural clash of introvert and extrovert leaders: overcoming stereotypes and encouraging introverts to be leaders 48:50 Reaching out to invite introverts to participate The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org . Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman , David Butler , Hank Smith , John Bytheway , Reyna and Elena Aburto , Liz Wiseman , Stephen M. R. Covey , Elder Alvin F. Meredith III , Julie Beck , Brad Wilcox , Jody Moore , Tony Overbay , John H. Groberg , Elaine Dalton , Tad R. Callister , Lynn G. Robbins , J. Devn Cornish , Bonnie Oscarson , Dennis B. Neuenschwander , Kirby Heyborne , Taysom Hill , Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman , Anthony Sweat , John Hilton III , Barbara Morgan Gardner , Blair Hodges , Whitney Johnson , Ryan Gottfredson , Greg McKeown , Ganel-Lyn Condie , Michael Goodman , Wendy Ulrich , Richard Ostler , and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric , Relief Society , elders quorum , Primary , youth leadership , stake leadership , ward mission , ward council , young adults , ministering , and teaching .