In this special episode of From the Crows’ Nest , we’re coming to you from the heart of Rome, Italy, where AOC Europe 2025 is in full swing! Host Ken Miller sits down with three familiar voices to capture the pulse of the show floor and dive into the evolving landscape of Electromagnetic Operations (EMO). This year’s theme, “EMO in Transition – Learning from the Russo-Ukrainian War,” sparks timely conversations and fresh perspectives from the field. Ken is joined by Erik Bamford, Branch Chief EW for the Norwegian Armed Forces and AOC Board Member; Dr. Tom Withington, renowned defense journalist; and Duncan McCrory of the Freeman Air & Space Institute at King’s College London. Together, they explore what’s shaping the conversation at AOC Europe and what it means for the future of EMO, EW, and global security. For more real-time updates and behind-the-scenes insights from AOC Europe 2025, follow the AOC LinkedIn page . To learn more about today’s topics or stay up to speed on all things EMSO, visit our homepage . Have thoughts or questions about this episode? Email host Ken Miller at
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