This episode is sponsored by Playbook , which is a collaborative platform for creatives to store, organize, and share their work. It features AI-powered search and integrates seamlessly with design tools, making it a great space to manage all your files and projects. Join the "30 Days of 30 Projects" Challenge with Playbook to elevate your creative skills and unlock your full potential! In this episode, Femke and Charli delve into the journey of transitioning from an individual contributor to a design manager, including distinct responsibilities and skills required for effective management in the creative industry. They talk about their training experiences, essential books, and learning opportunities that contribute to the development of successful management careers. Timestamps: 0:34 - Intro 01:16 - Catch-Up 03:31 - Playbook sponsorship 04:52 - Training for Management Skills 06:38 - Charli's Current Management Training at Kit 08:24 - Femke’s Training Overview 16:15 - Book Recommendations The Making of a Manager: What to Do When Everyone Looks to You by Julie Zhuo Radical Candor by Kim Scott The Manager's Path by Camille Fournier 19:23 - At what point of your career did you get the coach? 21:08 - How to balance the relationship between external coaching and internal management? 23:37 - Did you have a chance to coach others in management? 25:16 - Is there anything Charli would like to pursue in management training, specifically in design leadership? Big thanks to our sponsor for this episode, Playbook ! Be sure to check them out and see how they can elevate your workflow Femke’s course “Product strategy for designers” Share your topic suggestions for the show with us at
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