Can Christians enjoy stories with “magic”? Marian Jacobs and Rebecca unpack how fantasy can train us to love Jesus and discern the occult—using a simple rubric rooted in Scripture and the self-giving love at the heart of the gospel. Get the book: On Magic & Miracles: A Theological Guide to Discerning Fictional Magic Follow Marian: Instagram | Website Sign up for weekly emails at RebeccaMcLaughlin.org/Subscribe Follow Us on Instagram and X Produced by The Good Podcast Co.