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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with David Sloan Wilson, an American evolutionary biologist, Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Biological Sciences and Anthropology at Binghamton University, and co-founder of the Evolution Institute and ProSocial World. In this conversation, we explore what it would mean for humanity to act as a steward of evolution itself - not freezing life in its current form, but guiding its transformation toward futures that re...
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David Sloan Wilson - Darwinian Forces Shape the Earth Superorganism (Worthy Successor, Episode 18)

David Sloan Wilson - Darwinian Forces Shape the Earth Superorganism (Worthy Successor, Episode 18)

Dec 26, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with David Sloan Wilson, an American evolutionary biologist, Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Biological Sciences and Anthropology at Binghamton...

Michael Johnson - Symmetry, Beauty, and the Shape of Consciousness (Worthy Successor, Episode 17)

Michael Johnson - Symmetry, Beauty, and the Shape of Consciousness (Worthy Successor, Episode 17)

Dec 12, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Michael Johnson, a philosopher and neuroscientist who describes himself as working on "how to turn consciousness into a real science." Mike is...

Robin Hanson - A Successor Must be Adaptive (Worthy Successor, Episode 16)

Robin Hanson - A Successor Must be Adaptive (Worthy Successor, Episode 16)

Nov 28, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Robin Hanson - Associate Professor of Economics at George Mason University, economist, polymath, and author of The Age of Em. Hanson is one of the...

Joe Carlsmith - A Wiser, AI-Powered Civilization is the “Successor” (Worthy Successor, Episode 15)

Joe Carlsmith - A Wiser, AI-Powered Civilization is the “Successor” (Worthy Successor, Episode 15)

Nov 14, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Joe Carlsmith, a senior advisor at Open Philanthropy, whose work spans AI alignment, moral uncertainty, and the philosophical foundations of...

Blaise Agüera y Arcas - AGI Symbiosis and the Arrow of Intelligence (Worthy Successor, Episode 14)

Blaise Agüera y Arcas - AGI Symbiosis and the Arrow of Intelligence (Worthy Successor, Episode 14)

Oct 31, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Blaise Agüera y Arcas, Vice President and Fellow at Google, and CTO of Technology & Society. In this conversation, Blaise talks about how life and...

Brad Carson - AGI Competition with Civility and Understanding (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 5)

Brad Carson - AGI Competition with Civility and Understanding (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 5)

Oct 24, 2025·

This is an interview with Brad Carson, who served as a U.S. Congressman and as Under Secretary of the Army. Later, he served as the Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel & Readiness, and now serves as...

Irakli Beridze - Can the UN Help with Global AGI Governance? (AGI Governance, Episode 11)

Irakli Beridze - Can the UN Help with Global AGI Governance? (AGI Governance, Episode 11)

Oct 10, 2025·

Joining us in our eleventh episode of our series AGI Governance on The Trajectory is Irakli Beridze, Director of the UNICRI Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Robotics under the United Nations mandate. In this...

Dean Xue Lan - A Multi-Pronged Approach to Pre-AGI Coordination (AGI Governance, Episode 10)

Dean Xue Lan - A Multi-Pronged Approach to Pre-AGI Coordination (AGI Governance, Episode 10)

Oct 3, 2025·

Joining us in our tenth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Dean Xue Lan, longtime scholar of public policy and global governance, whose recent work centers on AI safety and international...

RAND’s Joel Predd - Competitive and Cooperative Dynamics of AGI (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 4)

RAND’s Joel Predd - Competitive and Cooperative Dynamics of AGI (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 4)

Sep 26, 2025·

This is an interview with Joel Predd, a senior engineer at the RAND Corporation and co-author of RAND’s work on “five hard national security problems from AGI,”. In this conversation, Joel lays out a sober frame for...

Drew Cukor - AI Adoption as a National Security Priority (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 3)

Drew Cukor - AI Adoption as a National Security Priority (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 3)

Sep 19, 2025·

USMC Colonel Drew Cukor spent 25 years as decades in uniform and helped spearhead early Department of Defense AI efforts, eventually leading project including the Pentagon’s Project Maven. After government service, he’s...

Stuart Russell - Avoiding the Cliff of Uncontrollable AI (AGI Governance, Episode 9)

Stuart Russell - Avoiding the Cliff of Uncontrollable AI (AGI Governance, Episode 9)

Sep 12, 2025·

Joining us in our ninth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Stuart Russell, Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley and author of Human Compatible. In this episode, Stuart explores why current...

Craig Mundie - Co-Evolution with AI: Industry First, Regulators Later (AGI Governance, Episode 8)

Craig Mundie - Co-Evolution with AI: Industry First, Regulators Later (AGI Governance, Episode 8)

Sep 5, 2025·

Joining us in our eighth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Craig Mundie, former Chief Research and Strategy Officer at Microsoft and longtime advisor on the evolution of digital infrastructure...

Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2)

Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2)

Aug 29, 2025·

This is an interview with Jeremie and Edouard Harris, Canadian researchers with backgrounds in AI governance and national security consulting, and co-founders of Gladstone AI. In this episode, Jeremie and Edouard...

Ed Boyden - Neurobiology as a Bridge to a Worthy Successor (Worthy Successor, Episode 13)

Ed Boyden - Neurobiology as a Bridge to a Worthy Successor (Worthy Successor, Episode 13)

Aug 22, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series features Ed Boyden, an American neuroscientist and entrepreneur at MIT, widely known for his work on optogenetics and brain simulation - his breakthroughs have helped...

Roman Yampolskiy - The Blacker the Box, the Bigger the Risk (Early Experience of AGI, Episode 3)

Roman Yampolskiy - The Blacker the Box, the Bigger the Risk (Early Experience of AGI, Episode 3)

Aug 15, 2025·

This is an interview with Roman V. Yampolskiy, a computer scientist at the University of Louisville and a leading voice in AI safety. Everyone has heard Roman's p(doom) arguments, that isn't the focus of our interview...

Toby Ord - Crucial Updates on the Evolving AGI Risk Landscape (AGI Governance, Episode 7)

Toby Ord - Crucial Updates on the Evolving AGI Risk Landscape (AGI Governance, Episode 7)

Aug 12, 2025·

Joining us in our seventh episode of our series AGI Governance on The Trajectory is Toby Ord, Senior Researcher at Oxford University’s AI Governance Initiative and author of The Precipice: Existential Risk and the...

Martin Rees - If They’re Conscious, We Should Step Aside (Worthy Successor, Episode 12)

Martin Rees - If They’re Conscious, We Should Step Aside (Worthy Successor, Episode 12)

Aug 1, 2025·

This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with the brilliant Martin Rees - British cosmologist, astrophysicist, and 60th President of the Royal Society. In this interview we explore his belief...

Emmett Shear - AGI as "Another Kind of Cell" in the Tissue of Life (Worthy Successor, Episode 11)

Emmett Shear - AGI as "Another Kind of Cell" in the Tissue of Life (Worthy Successor, Episode 11)

Jul 18, 2025·

This is an interview with Emmett Shear - CEO of SoftMax, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, and one of the few public-facing tech leaders who seems to take both AGI development and AGI alignment...

Joshua Clymer - Where Human Civilization Might Crumble First (Early Experience of AGI - Episode 2)

Joshua Clymer - Where Human Civilization Might Crumble First (Early Experience of AGI - Episode 2)

Jul 4, 2025·

This is an interview with Joshua Clymer, AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, and former researcher at METR. Joshua has spent years focused on institutional readiness for AGI, especially the kinds of governance...

Peter Singer - Optimizing the Future for Joy, and the Exploration of the Good [Worthy Successor, Episode 10]

Peter Singer - Optimizing the Future for Joy, and the Exploration of the Good [Worthy Successor, Episode 10]

Jun 20, 2025·

This is an interview with Peter Singer, one of the most influential moral philosophers of our time. Singer is best known for his groundbreaking work on animal rights, global poverty, and utilitarian ethics, and his...

David Duvenaud - What are Humans Even Good For in Five Years? [Early Experience of AGI - Episode 1]

David Duvenaud - What are Humans Even Good For in Five Years? [Early Experience of AGI - Episode 1]

Jun 6, 2025·

This is an interview with David Duvenaud, Assistant Professor at University of Toronto, co-author of the Gradual Disempowerment paper, and former researcher at Anthropic. This is the first episode in our new “Early...

Kristian Rönn - A Blissful Successor Beyond Darwinian Life [Worthy Successor, Episode 9]

Kristian Rönn - A Blissful Successor Beyond Darwinian Life [Worthy Successor, Episode 9]

May 23, 2025·

This is an interview with Kristian Rönn, author, successful startup founder, and now CEO of Lucid, and AI hardware governance startup based in SF. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series...

Jack Shanahan - Avoiding an AI Race While Keeping America Strong [US-China AGI Relations, Episode 1]

Jack Shanahan - Avoiding an AI Race While Keeping America Strong [US-China AGI Relations, Episode 1]

May 9, 2025·

This is an interview with Jack Shanahan, a three-star General and former Director of the Joint AI Center (JAIC) within the US Department of Defense. This the first installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series...

Richard Ngo - A State-Space of Positive Posthuman Futures [Worthy Successor, Episode 8]

Richard Ngo - A State-Space of Positive Posthuman Futures [Worthy Successor, Episode 8]

Apr 25, 2025·

This is an interview with Richard Ngo, AGI researcher and thinker - with extensive stints at both OpenAI and DeepMind. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of...

Yi Zeng - Exploring 'Virtue' and Goodness Through Posthuman Minds [AI Safety Connect, Episode 2]

Yi Zeng - Exploring 'Virtue' and Goodness Through Posthuman Minds [AI Safety Connect, Episode 2]

Apr 11, 2025·

This is an interview with Yi Zeng, Professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, a member of the United Nations High-Level Advisory Body on AI, and leader of the Beijing Institute for AI Safety and Governance (among...

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