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The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more.  From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.
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198. How Trump’s Imperial Presidency Really Works

198. How Trump’s Imperial Presidency Really Works

Jul 19, 2026·52:51

52:51

How does the most chaotic White House in history actually make decisions? How did Netanyahu sell Trump on a regime change war in Iran? Who is the only world leader Trump is truly afraid of? Alastair is joined by Maggie...

197. The Billionaire Tax Debate (Gabriel Zucman)

197. The Billionaire Tax Debate (Gabriel Zucman)

Jul 12, 2026·1:11:40

1:11:40

Can the super rich ever be fairly taxed, or are there too many functioning tax havens? Can capitalism survive the ever growing disparity between the top 1% and the rest? Should billionaires exist at all? Rory and...

196. How America Talks Itself Into Endless Wars

196. How America Talks Itself Into Endless Wars

Jul 5, 2026·1:12:37

1:12:37

What does the gap between American foreign policy rhetoric and reality reveal about the failures of its military interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Iran? In an age of algorithm-driven political polarisation...

195. Can the West Reclaim its Power from Trump? (Malcolm Turnbull)

195. Can the West Reclaim its Power from Trump? (Malcolm Turnbull)

Jun 28, 2026·1:10:32

1:10:32

As Western nations become increasingly dependent on the US for AI, satellite infrastructure, and defence, are they sacrificing sovereignty in exchange for American security? Can middle powers such as Australia and the...

194. Is Putin Losing His Grip on Russia?

194. Is Putin Losing His Grip on Russia?

Jun 21, 2026·1:03:44

1:03:44

With war fatigue growing and polls showing increasing dissatisfaction with life in Russia, is Vladimir Putin beginning to lose control? What is really happening inside Russia today? And what is it like to report the...

193. James Cleverly: Why Has There Been A Radical Shift On The Right?

193. James Cleverly: Why Has There Been A Radical Shift On The Right?

Jun 14, 2026·1:18:24

1:18:24

What does James Cleverly think of Nigel Farage and Reform? How does Cleverly explain his unexpected exit from the Tory leadership race? What could the future of AI in Great Britain look like under different leadership?...

192.  Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)

192. Are We On The Brink Of World War III? (Odd Arne Westad)

Jun 7, 2026·1:02:35

1:02:35

How similar is today's world to the months before the outbreak of World War I? Could Taiwan, India-China tensions, or an unforeseen crisis be the spark that sets the world ablaze? Are our leaders too consumed by...

191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)

191. Is It Already Too Late to Control AI? (Anthropic Co-Founder, Jack Clark)

May 31, 2026·1:07:25

1:07:25

Why is one of AI's most powerful insiders scared of what he's building? Who's really in charge of the technology reshaping our world? Is it too late for governments to regulate it? Rory and Matt Clifford are joined by...

190. How the Media Still Misunderstands Trump (Tina Brown)

190. How the Media Still Misunderstands Trump (Tina Brown)

May 24, 2026·1:12:57

1:12:57

Why does Trump understand the media better than the media understands him? Are tech billionaires like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos more dangerous to journalism than Rupert Murdoch ever was? What did Tina Brown see change in...

189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party

189. Rahm Emanuel: China, Technology, and the Future of the Democratic Party

May 17, 2026·1:13:16

1:13:16

Will Rahm Emanuel run to be the next President of the United States? What were the underlying policy disagreements regarding West Bank settlements that led to Benjamin Netanyahu publicly attacking Rahm Emanuel? And...

188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

188. Will AI Give China or the US Total Power? (William MacAskill)

May 10, 2026·1:08:14

1:08:14

Could artificial intelligence hand the US or China 99% of global economic and military power? What happens when millions of autonomous weapons systems are controlled by a single commander-in-chief? Has effective...

187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism

187. Yanis Varoufakis: How The 2008 Crisis Revived Far-Right Populism

May 3, 2026·1:17:59

1:17:59

Was the 2008 financial crisis as consequential as the 1929 Wall Street Crash? How did it pave the way for Trump, Brexit, and the rise of the far-right across Europe? Will the economic damage caused by Trump’s war with...

186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU

186. President Aleksandar Vučić: Russia, China, and How Serbia Could Join the EU

Apr 26, 2026·1:06:22

1:06:22

How does President Vučić justify Serbia's geopolitical balancing act between Russia, China, and the European Union? Why does he warn that if the EU further delays enlargement, the United States might seize the...

185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)

185. Can Labour Win Back Scotland? (Anas Sarwar)

Apr 19, 2026·1:02:26

1:02:26

Does the Leader of Scottish Labour regret calling for Keir Starmer to resign over his appointment of Peter Mandelson as US Ambassador? In the upcoming election, would he consider putting Scottish Labour into a coalition...

184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy

184. President of Ukraine: Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Apr 9, 2026·52:04

52:04

At a time when the United States is threatening to withdraw from NATO, how can Europe maximise its power to deter Russia's threat? If Vladimir Putin were given the territory Donald Trump offered in his peace plan, what...

183. From Bradford to Westminster: Faith, Identity, and Power (Naz Shah)

183. From Bradford to Westminster: Faith, Identity, and Power (Naz Shah)

Apr 5, 2026·1:10:53

1:10:53

How did Naz Shah’s experience growing up in Bradford and her experience with her family in the legal system influence her to go into politics? What does it mean for a political party to truly “stand for something” in...

182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride)

182. Culture Wars, Identity, and What Needs To Change In Congress (Sarah McBride)

Mar 29, 2026·1:05:09

1:05:09

How are rights for trans people in the US improving or worsening under the Republican administration? What fundamentally needs to change in Congress to improve the state of politics? Are the Democrats doing enough to...

181. Ai Weiwei: China, Censorship, and Dissidence Through Art

181. Ai Weiwei: China, Censorship, and Dissidence Through Art

Mar 22, 2026·1:07:57

1:07:57

Why was Ai Weiwei kidnapped and held prisoner by the Chinese government? How did the 2008 Sichuan earthquake radicalise him into taking aim at the authorities through art? What’s behind Ai Weiwei’s belief that there is...

180. The Only European Leader Defying Trump? (Pedro Sánchez)

180. The Only European Leader Defying Trump? (Pedro Sánchez)

Mar 15, 2026·1:15:26

1:15:26

Why is Prime Minister Sánchez such an outlier in challenging Trump on everything from military spending to Gaza? What’s behind Spain’s recent economic success? How is Spain tackling the rising far-right? What are Pedro...

179. President Stubb: Trump’s Unlikely Best Friend

179. President Stubb: Trump’s Unlikely Best Friend

Mar 8, 2026·41:42

41:42

How did President Stubb’s golfing talent lead him to fostering a close relationship with President Trump? Why was ‘Prime Minister’ the worst job ever? Why will the Global South define the new world order? Rory and...

178. Gavin Newsom: The Next President Of The United States?

178. Gavin Newsom: The Next President Of The United States?

Mar 1, 2026·54:04

54:04

What happened on a ridiculous midnight phone call between Donald Trump and the Governor of California? Why does Gavin Newsom believe the President will be crushed in the mid-terms? What is Newsom’s tactic for trolling...

177. Olaf Scholz: Putin, Power, and Far-Right Populism

177. Olaf Scholz: Putin, Power, and Far-Right Populism

Feb 22, 2026·59:04

59:04

Does the former German Chancellor think that Germany was wrong to rely on Russian gas in the run up to the war in Ukraine? What does Olaf Scholz think is behind the rise of the far-right Alternative for Germany? Why...

176. How Close Are We To War With Iran? (Robert Malley)

176. How Close Are We To War With Iran? (Robert Malley)

Feb 15, 2026·1:08:48

1:08:48

How does the former US Special Representative for Iran think US-Iranian relations will improve? Is there a method to Trump’s madness when it comes to foreign policy? Why does Robert believe the “two-state solution” for...

175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)

175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)

Feb 8, 2026·1:10:07

1:10:07

Do Russia or China represent a bigger risk to UK national security? Why are we underestimating the threat posed by cybercriminals? Who holds the real power - ministers or spies? Rory and Alastair are joined by Jeremy...

174. Taking On Europe's Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin

174. Taking On Europe's Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin

Feb 5, 2026·29:11

29:11

How did Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya go from being a housewife to leading a Belarussian government in exile? How did Aleksandr Lukashenko become the last dictator in Europe? Why was Segei, Sviatlana’s husband, imprisoned...

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