The PolicyViz Podcast

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Learn how to be a great data communicator and visualizer with host Jon Schwabish. Hear from experts in the fields of data science, data visualization, and presentation skills to improve how you and your organization collect, analyze, and communicate your data in better, more efficient, and more effective ways.
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Why Federal Statistics Matter: Rob Santos on Trust, Data Integrity, and the Future of the Census

Why Federal Statistics Matter: Rob Santos on Trust, Data Integrity, and the Future of the Census

Dec 19, 2025·

This is the final episode of 2026! I hope you have enjoyed the show this year and also hope you have a great holiday season and happy new year. In this episode, I sit down with former Census Bureau Director Rob Santos...

Flourish, Canva, and the Future of Data Storytelling: Duncan Clark Returns to the Podcast

Flourish, Canva, and the Future of Data Storytelling: Duncan Clark Returns to the Podcast

Dec 16, 2025·

In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome back Duncan Clark from Flourish and Canva to talk about the incredible evolution of both tools over the past few years. We dig into how the Flourish and Canva teams have grown...

Inside IEEEVIS 2025: Key Themes, Best Papers, and the Future of Visualization

Inside IEEEVIS 2025: Key Themes, Best Papers, and the Future of Visualization

Dec 10, 2025·

In this episode, I sit down with Alvitta Ottley and Paul Parsons to recap everything that happened at the 2025 IEEE VIS Conference in Vienna. We talk about our experiences co-organizing the VisCom workshop, the...

Exploring Creative Data Visualization with Nadieh Bremer

Exploring Creative Data Visualization with Nadieh Bremer

Nov 26, 2025·

In this episode, I sit down with Nadieh Bremer to talk about her new book, Chart, and the creative process behind her data visualization work. We discuss how she structures the book around a spectrum from...

The Future of Dashboards, Data Apps, and AI with Plotly's Chris Parmer

The Future of Dashboards, Data Apps, and AI with Plotly's Chris Parmer

Nov 19, 2025·

In this week’s episode, I talk with Chris Parmer, co-founder of Plotly, about how the company is integrating AI into the next generation of data visualization and analytics tools. Chris walks me through the thinking...

Beyond the Visual: How Tactile Maps Expand Data Accessibility

Beyond the Visual: How Tactile Maps Expand Data Accessibility

Nov 12, 2025·

In this week’s episode, I welcome Jakub Wabiński and Vincent van Altena to the show to talk about their new book, Tactile Mapping. We explore how tactile and multisensory design can make maps—and data—more accessible...

Telling Stories with Maps: Allen Carroll on the Art of Map-Based Storytelling

Telling Stories with Maps: Allen Carroll on the Art of Map-Based Storytelling

Nov 5, 2025·

Welcome back to the show! In this week’s episode, I chat with Allen Carroll, former Chief Cartographer at National Geographic and part of Esri’s StoryMaps team. We talk about his new book, Telling Stories with Maps...

Fiscal Policy, Data, and Democracy: Insights from Former CBO Director Doug Elmendorf

Fiscal Policy, Data, and Democracy: Insights from Former CBO Director Doug Elmendorf

Sep 30, 2025·

Welcome back to the show! In this week's episode, I sit down with Doug Elmendorf, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, to talk about the impact of government shutdowns, the challenges of fiscal...

From Data Literacy to Storytelling: Insights from The Little Book of Data

From Data Literacy to Storytelling: Insights from The Little Book of Data

Sep 24, 2025·

In this week's episode of the show, I sit down with Justin Evans, author of The Little Book of Data, to talk about what it means to truly think like a data person. Justin shares insights from his 20-year career in data...

Economic Data Under Fire: Accuracy, Trust, and Transparency with David Wessel

Economic Data Under Fire: Accuracy, Trust, and Transparency with David Wessel

Sep 19, 2025·

In this episode of the show, I talk with David Wessel from the Brookings Institution about the state of the US economy, the reliability of government statistics, and why trust in data matters more than ever. We cover...

Inside the BLS: William Beach on Trust, Data, and the Future of Federal Statistics

Inside the BLS: William Beach on Trust, Data, and the Future of Federal Statistics

Sep 17, 2025·

In this episode, I sit down with William Beach, former Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, to dig into how America’s most important economic data are produced. We talk about the nuts and bolts of how the BLS...

Why the BLS Matters with Former Commissioner Erica Groshen

Why the BLS Matters with Former Commissioner Erica Groshen

Sep 8, 2025·

This is a very special episode of the PolicyViz Podcast. I’m joined by Erica Groshen, former Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics to talk about the latest jobs report and what the numbers really mean for the...

Season 12 Premiere!

Season 12 Premiere!

Sep 3, 2025·

I’m excited to kick off Season 12 of the PolicyViz Podcast! In this short premiere, I share a few personal and professional updates and preview what’s ahead on the show. This season, I’ll focus on three big themes...

Shirley Wu on Data, Art, and Innovation in Visualization

Shirley Wu on Data, Art, and Innovation in Visualization

Jun 25, 2025·

Welcome to the Season 11 Finale of the PolicyViz Podcast! I’m ready for a summer break and am super excited to close the season talking with Shirly Wu—data visualization artist, technologist, and community thought...

Edward Tufte: Designing with Data, Art, and Purpose

Edward Tufte: Designing with Data, Art, and Purpose

Jun 18, 2025·

In this week’s episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, I am reposting my 2015 interview with Edward Tufte, one of the pioneers of data visualization and author of seminal books like The Visual Display of Quantitative...

From Tableau to AI: Where Data Visualization Is Headed with Andy Kirk

From Tableau to AI: Where Data Visualization Is Headed with Andy Kirk

Jun 10, 2025·

My friend Andy Kirk joins the show to reflect on the changing landscape of data visualization. We discuss the evolution of tools like Tableau and Flourish, the dispersion of social media communities, and how, how AI is...

Drawing Data with Dragons: Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic on Teaching Kids and Adults Alike

Drawing Data with Dragons: Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic on Teaching Kids and Adults Alike

Jun 3, 2025·

In this episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic joins me to discuss the evolution of her work in data storytelling—from corporate workshops to her newest venture into children’s literature. We explore...

Amanda Cox on Data Journalism, AI, and Democratizing Design

Amanda Cox on Data Journalism, AI, and Democratizing Design

May 28, 2025·

Amanda Cox reflects on her career path from the New York Times to Bloomberg News, highlighting her efforts to make data more accessible and meaningful through journalism. We dive into the shifts in data journalism—from...

Data for a Continent: Inside the European Correspondent's Visual Journalism

Data for a Continent: Inside the European Correspondent's Visual Journalism

May 7, 2025·

In this episode, I chat with Mandy Spaltman and Sebastian Graeff, co-leads of the data team at The European Correspondent, a volunteer-driven journalism initiative covering news across Europe. They discuss how their...

Data Are Local: Context, Power, and Storytelling with Yanni Loukissas

Data Are Local: Context, Power, and Storytelling with Yanni Loukissas

Apr 9, 2025·

In this episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, I speak with Yanni Loukissas, an Associate Professor at Georgia Tech, about the importance of context in working with data. Yanni argues that data are not universal but...

Exploring the Evolution of Data Visualization with Moritz Stefaner

Exploring the Evolution of Data Visualization with Moritz Stefaner

Mar 19, 2025·

In this week’s episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, I sit down with data visualization expert Moritz Stefaner to reflect on his journey in the field. We discuss Stefaner's work on the Data Stories Podcast, his shift from...

Engage, Elevate, Communicate: Davina Stanley on Crafting Clear Business Messages

Engage, Elevate, Communicate: Davina Stanley on Crafting Clear Business Messages

Mar 5, 2025·

In this episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, I chat with communication expert Davina Stanley about the power of clear and structured messaging in business communication. Davina shares insights from her books Engage and...

Mapping Inequality: Braden Crooks on Redlining and Urban Transformation

Mapping Inequality: Braden Crooks on Redlining and Urban Transformation

Feb 19, 2025·

In this week’s episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, I speak with Braden Crooks, co-founder of Designing the We, about their project Undesign the Redline, an interactive exhibit that explores the history and lasting impact...

Revolutionizing Web Development: Rich Harris on Svelte's Creation and Impact

Revolutionizing Web Development: Rich Harris on Svelte's Creation and Impact

Feb 5, 2025·

Rich Harris, creator of the Svelte framework, stops by the podcast to talk about his work. Rich shares how Svelte originated from his work in newsrooms at The Guardian and The New York Times, where he developed tools...

Kevin Wee's Tableau Journey in Visualization and Innovation

Kevin Wee's Tableau Journey in Visualization and Innovation

Jan 22, 2025·

Happy New Year, everyone! I hope you’re having a great start to 2025 and are poised to have a happy, healthy, and successful year. I’m excited to start off the podcast this year with my friend Kevin Wee, a Tableau...

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