The Exit - Presented By Flippa

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In this episode of The Exit, we sit down with Jeremy Harbour, a legendary dealmaker who has mastered the art of small-business M&A. Jeremy has spent decades building, buying, and selling businesses across the globe, and today, he’s sharing his unconventional wisdom on how to scale through acquisition—without the traditional "grind" of organic growth. We explore why starting a business is often a "broken" model and why buying an existing, cash-flowing company is the ultimate shortcut to wealth. Jeremy breaks down his famous "no-money-down" deal structures, the importance of creating win-win scenarios for sellers, and how his Agglomeration strategy allows small businesses to play in the big leagues of public markets. Whether you're looking to make your first acquisition or planning your ultimate exit, Jeremy’s practical, no-nonsense approach to deal-making is a masterclass in financial engineering and entrepreneurship. -- Jeremy Harbour is an entrepreneur and dealmaker, based in Dubai, who has built, bought, fixed, and sold numerous small and mid‐sized businesses over several decades. As founder of the Harbour Club and CEO and founder at Unity Group, he specialises in small‐business M&A and acquisition, entrepreneurship, and helping business owners grow through buying companies rather than starting from scratch. Jeremy is known for his practical no‐nonsense approach to doing deals, structuring win‐wins, and helping entrepreneurs create real wealth through private company ownership and public listings. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyharbour/ Website - https://www.harbourclubevents.com/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Have you ever wondered why two identical businesses can sell for vastly different prices? One owner walks away with generational wealth, while the other settles for a steep discount and "unattractive" terms. In this episode of The Exit, Steve McGarry sits down with Cameron Bishop, the Managing Director at Raincatcher, to pull back the curtain on the high-stakes world of M&A. From his humble beginnings as an advertising copywriter to scaling a company to $400 million with 2,000 employees, Cameron has been in the driver’s seat of over 90 buy-side and sell-side deals. Today, he’s sharing the tactical "cheat sheet" every founder needs to maximize their valuation and avoid the mistakes that kill deals in diligence. -- Cameron Bishop is an experienced executive and entrepreneur known for driving growth and transformation across media and education businesses. He began as a copywriter and rose to CEO of Intertec Publishing, scaling it into a $400 million global enterprise, and later co-founded Ascend Media, growing it into a $120 million company backed by JP Morgan Chase. Cameron has also advised private business owners on exit strategies through Capitus and served as CEO of SkillPath Seminars, where he led a successful turnaround through rebranding, operational improvements, and digital innovation. Today, he works with entrepreneurs to navigate challenges, maximize value, and unlock new growth opportunities. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-bishop-19b6804/ Website - https://raincatcher.com/ [00:20] – Cameron’s "unusual" journey: From advertising copywriter to Managing Director. [01:10] – Scaling a $7M business to a $400M powerhouse with 2,000 employees. [02:44] – The Essential Question: What are the common mistakes that kill deals in diligence? [05:37] – The 95/5 Rule: Why working on your business is more important than working in it. [09:00] – The "Accounting Horror Stories" and why GAAP accrual is a non-negotiable for buyers. [10:45] – The Owner Dependency Trap: Passing the "Vacation Test". [14:00] – The "Fish and Chip" Method: How to protect your valuation from "retrading". [15:30] – The power of Sell-Side Diligence and why it's a "full-time job on top of a full-time job". [22:00] – Case Study: How a competitive bidding environment turned a $19M valuation into a $28M exit. [24:43] – How to connect with Cameron and the team at Raincatcher. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Blake Hutchison, CEO of Flippa, the world's largest marketplace for buying and selling digital businesses, joins Steve McGarry to unveil Broker AI: a suite of AI-powered tools that's set to transform how small business M&A gets done. From AI agents that source deals and qualify buyers, to automated P&L builders and multilingual deal rooms, this episode breaks down how Flippa is democratising business brokerage for entrepreneurs around the world. -- Blake Hutchison is the Chief Executive Officer of Flippa, the online marketplace that enables buying and selling of websites, apps, stores, and digital businesses. Since taking the helm in late 2018 as a turnaround CEO, Blake has driven Flippa’s growth and led a global team focused on empowering entrepreneurs and small business owners to exit on their terms and own their future. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/blakehutchison/ Check Out Flippa’s Partner Program - https://flippapartners.com/ -- Key Moments: 00:00 - Introduction — Blake Hutchison returns to The Exit 00:55 - Why business brokers are the heart of small business M&A 02:30 - Introducing Broker AI and the Certified Flipper Broker Partner Program 04:30 - Who should apply — the ideal broker partner profile 07:43 - Inside the brokerage process: deal sourcing, Lauren AI, and how leads work 09:00 - The P&L Builder: building SDE-adjusted financials for M&A 10:30 - The IM Generator and the 7 agents running on the platform 12:14 - Meet Brian and Lauren — the AI agents with names 14:28 - Going global: why the program is open worldwide 18:00 - Real-world example: Brokerall in Rome and the Italian Amazon FBA community 21:03 - Multilingual deal rooms in action 24:00 - Which asset types are hottest right now: Ecom, YouTube, and what's cooling 25:19 - The state of AI: fear, opportunity, and what Blake built himself this week 31:45 - Where to learn more and how to apply -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In this episode, Steve McGarry sits down with Tyson Ray, CEO of Form Wealth Advisors and a certified exit planner. With over 27 years in the financial services industry, Tyson shares his journey from a childhood shaped by financial hardship to becoming a guide for business owners facing their inevitable "exit." Whether you plan to sell next year or die at your desk, Tyson explains why every entrepreneur needs a succession plan. He introduces his signature SPACE framework and discusses the critical psychological shifts required to successfully transition away from a business you've spent a lifetime building. -- After nearly 30 years building a successful financial advisory practice, Tyson Ray realized his assumed succession plan was actually built on unchecked assumptions that could put everything at risk. That moment of reflection inspired his book Total Succession, the SPACE™ framework (See, Prepare, Act, Commit, Exit), and The Total Succession Show podcast, where he helps financial advisors exit their businesses with clarity and confidence. Tyson encourages advisors to confront difficult questions about leadership, client protection, and letting go, with one clear message: it is never too late to get succession planning right. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tysonray/ Website - https://formwealth.com/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- What happens when you go from the high-flying life of a Silicon Valley wunderkind to getting laid off and being miserable in a cubicle? For Ab Emam, it was the spark that ignited a 25-year serial entrepreneurship journey. In this episode, Ab sits down with Steve McGarry to break down the "scar tissue" of building and selling three distinct companies. From losing 51% of his first business to navigating government hacks and eventually finding a massive exit with Private Equity, Ab shares the raw, unpolished truth about what it actually takes to scale and sell. -- Ab Emam is a seasoned digital and tech entrepreneur with a proven track record of building, scaling, and successfully exiting multiple ventures. Known for his expertise in digital strategy, technology innovation, and driving business growth, Ab has developed deep experience helping organizations leverage digital transformation and AI-driven efficiency. A two-time exit founder and active voice in the entrepreneurial community, he shares insights on private equity, startups, marketing, and leadership while advising founders on scaling and exit strategy. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abemam/ -- Key Takeaways & Timestamps: [02:50] Transitioning from Silicon Valley energy to the "boring" DC government scene. [09:15] The "Golden Nugget": Why you should never give away 51% ownership of your startup. [13:30] Founding GovTrends: Managing congressional websites and surviving high-profile hacks. [21:00] Building for Exit: The 3 pillars of high valuation (Scalability, Leadership, and Recurring Revenue). [24:50] How to drive your valuation up when talking to Private Equity. [34:00] The "Time Machine" effect: Why every founder needs a mentor who has already fought the battles. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- What does an 8-year-old’s soda stand have in common with an $83M Series C tech exit? For Daniel R. Odio (DROdio) (Founder & CEO of Storytell.ai), the answer is simple: Seeing the wave before it hits. From building "Redfin before Redfin" by indexing the MLS for Google, to scaling the DevOps giant Armory, DROdio has mastered the transition from founder to serial departer. In this episode, we go deep on the "physics" of an acquisition, why businesses are bought (not sold), and how he is currently using AI to deconstruct unstructured data. -- Daniel R. Odio (DROdio) is a seasoned technology entrepreneur and CEO of Storytell.ai, a predictive strategic intelligence platform trusted by enterprise teams to extract signals from complex data and make it actionable. Previously the founding CEO of Armory, a cloud infrastructure company that helped Global 2000 companies ship software faster and more safely before its acquisition by Harness in 2024, Daniel has built and led multiple successful startups through growth and exits. He combines deep technical and business expertise with a passion for founder-first communities like FounderCulture, and he shares insights on leadership, product strategy, and AI. Website - https://storytell.ai/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/drodio/ -- [02:09] Catching the 20-year tech waves: From Real Estate to DevOps to AI. [03:15] "Redfin before Redfin": How DROdio gamed early Google search results to dominate the DC real estate market. [04:47] The Ezra Royzen philosophy: Why businesses are bought, not sold. [06:13] Preparation is everything: How a messy NDA folder can kill a seven-figure deal. [08:30] The Strategic Buyer: How to find a champion who will put their career on the line to acquire you. [12:30] Lessons from Armory: Scaling to 150 people and the importance of "tending the founder garden." [16:10] Advice to my younger self: "Founders are time travelers." [18:30] Demo: Using Storytell.ai to analyze a Flippa listing and find "Existential Threats" in seconds. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- What happens when you’re at the finish line of a massive business exit and decide to walk away? In this episode, Steve Young, founder of App Masters, joins Steve McGarry to unpack his decade-long journey from a side-hustling app developer to a major player in the mobile marketing space. Steve shares the raw truth behind selling app portfolios on Flippa, the common mistakes founders make during due diligence, and the surprising lessons he learned from a failed multi-million dollar exit. Whether you’re building your first "Minimum Viable Revenue" product or preparing for a seven-figure sale, this episode is a masterclass in patience, clean books, and the power of audience-first business building. -- Steve Young is an author, speaker, and host of the #1 app marketing YouTube channel with 50K subscribers. He has interviewed the biggest names including the co-founder of Shazam, Crossy Road, Mafia Wars, Color Switch, and more! He is also the founder of App Masters the app marketing agency that helps grow apps faster, better & cheaper. Website - https://appmasters.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevepyoung/ -- [00:37] Steve’s origins: From a meetup group to building cross-platform iOS and Google Play apps. [01:30] Why niching down into a podcast about apps in 2013 was the catalyst for his 30+ person team today. [04:50] Selling on Flippa: Why "real estate value" and ASO (App Store Optimization) are key drivers for app sales. [07:10] Inside a "failed" major exit: Learning the buyer's mindset and why Steve chose to walk away at the finish line. [10:00] Preparing for the 7 and 8-figure level: The importance of "squeaky clean" books and systemized tax returns. [11:50] The Five Whys: How to determine if it’s the right time to sell or if you’re just experiencing burnout. [13:45] Creative Financing: Understanding seller notes and how they benefit both the buyer and the seller. [15:22] The Golden Rule of M&A: "Until the money is in the bank, pretend you still own it." [19:04] Advice to a younger self: "Do the work, give up the timeline." [21:00] The future of App Masters: Moving from an agency model to an app portfolio team focusing on "Minimum Viable Revenue." -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In a candid conversation, Aleksandar Svetski (founder of Satlantis and formerly of Amber) pulls back the curtain on the "messy" reality of exiting businesses. From selling a payroll app for six figures to navigating the regulatory hurdles of the Bitcoin world, Svetski offers a masterclass in founder psychology and strategic timing. Key Takeaway for Founders: The ultimate competitive advantage isn't just "hustle", it's the ability to slow down. Svetski’s advice to his younger self is to breathe between ventures. Opportunities are infinite; your health and clarity are not. -- Aleksandar Svetski is an entrepreneur, author, and Bitcoin advocate focused on the intersection of technology, economics, and personal sovereignty. He is the author of The UnCommunist Manifesto and The Bushido of Bitcoin, where he explores themes of sound money, culture, and individual responsibility. Aleksandar has founded and led multiple ventures in the Bitcoin ecosystem, including Satlantis, and previously co-founded Amber, helping scale the platform as it made Bitcoin more accessible to everyday users. His work centers on building systems and communities that support financial independence, long term thinking, and human connection in a digital world. Website - https://www.satlantis.io/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alekssvetski/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: flippa.com/exit -- In this episode, Steve McGarry sits down with Andrew Hulbert, an exited founder who turned a bedroom startup into a £50 million turnover facilities management powerhouse. Andrew shares the unvarnished truth about the "double exit" strategy, how he raised $100 million in private equity, and why he chose to retire at age 37 to become a full-time dad and "jam-maker" on his farm in Oxfordshire. If you are a founder looking to de-risk your life while scaling your business, this episode provides the exact playbook. -- Andrew Hulbert grew a business from his bedroom into one of the UK’s fastest-growing companies in facilities management. In just nine years, he scaled the company to over 500 people, winning more than 40 awards and delivering £0.25bn in contracted services. He went on to create eight figures in exit value for the business, generating significant value for all. Today, Andrew is sharing his story to inspire others and shape the future of entrepreneurship and leadership. LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/andrewhulbert/ Instagram - www.instagram.com/_andrewhulbert/ -- (00:00) – The "Working Class" Spark: From factory-worker roots to launching a business in a bedroom at age 27. (01:10) – Scaling to £50M: The 9-year journey of managing 500 staff and raising $100M in investment. (01:53) – The Art of De-Risking: Why Andrew took £18M off the table early and why "secondary sales" are a founder’s best friend. (03:15) – Hiring Your Replacement: How investing £1M in a new C-suite prepared the business for a massive secondary exit. (05:27) – Losing Control vs. Gaining Liquidity: Navigating the "soul-selling" reality of working with Private Equity. (07:29) – The COVID Catalyst: How the pandemic shifted Andrew’s perspective on fatherhood and forced an exit timeline. (09:48) – Knowing When to Walk Away: The internal "soul conversation" required to recognize the right time to sell. (13:01) – Driving the Multiples: Why your CFO is your most important hire during a sale process. (14:50) – The Momentum Narrative: Using LinkedIn, press releases, and awards to create a "bidding war" environment. (17:41) – The £12M Mistake: Lessons learned from "ratchets" and corporate advisor incentives. (20:44) – The Physical Toll of an Exit: Why Andrew lost 120 lbs and the importance of health during a transaction. (23:20) – Final Wisdom: What the Andrew of today would tell the Andrew of 10 years ago. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Are you growing your company in a way that truly prepares you for a successful exit, or are you hoping it will all work itself out when the time comes? Whether selling is right around the corner or still years away, building with the exit in mind can be the difference between a smooth transition and long-term regret. In this episode of The Exit, Steve sits down with Alex Seydel, a former M&A attorney turned business exit strategist and co-founder of Ripple’s Edge Advisors. After working on countless transactions, Alex has seen firsthand why so many founders walk away dissatisfied, not because they sold, but because they sold to the wrong buyer, in the wrong way, without proper preparation. -- Alex Seydel is an M&A attorney turned business exit strategist and the co-founder of Ripple’s Edge Advisors, where she helps founders grow with the exit in mind by maximizing value, attractiveness, and readiness long before a deal is on the table. Drawing on years of experience working across complex transactions, Alex partners with business owners to reduce risk, increase transferability, and position their companies for higher-quality exits at stronger multiples. A former Division I soccer player at the University of Iowa, she brings a competitive, disciplined mindset to every engagement, and when she’s not talking exits, you can usually find her discussing sports, Lane 8, or hanging out with her Golden Retriever, Thumper. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandria-seydel/ Website - https://www.ripplesedgeadvisors.com/ -- (00:00) Alex’s path from M&A attorney to exit strategist. (02:30) Why so many founders regret exits even after successful closes. (03:20) Getting clear on what you want before preparing to sell. (05:15) The biggest misconceptions founders have about exit readiness. (06:50) How to think about timing, growth, and selling without burnout. (09:25) Gender dynamics at the deal table and trusting your instincts as a founder. (14:15) Understanding advisor incentives and navigating intimidating deal calls. (16:50) What actually drives valuation beyond revenue and EBITDA. (18:45) Testing owner dependence and improving transferability. (20:05) The most common mistakes sellers make when choosing buyers. (22:00) Why maximizing cash at close often matters most. (22:50) Creative deal structures and smarter earn-outs. (25:30) Advice Alex would give herself ten years ago. (26:40) What Alex is working on now and where to find her. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Are you building your business with the end in mind? Whether you are ready to sell tomorrow or five years from now, understanding the mechanics of a successful exit is crucial for every founder. This week on The Exit, Steve sits down with Gregory Kovsky, President and CEO of IBA, the Pacific Northwest’s oldest business brokerage firm. With over 25 years of experience and thousands of transactions under his belt, Gregory breaks down the complex game theory of M&A. We dive deep into the specific timing of when to sell, how to "run through the tape" to maximize your multiple, and why selling a business actually requires making four separate sales to four different stakeholders. If you want to avoid leaving money on the table or getting killed in due diligence, this episode is your playbook. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: The "Four Sales" Theory: Why you aren't just selling to the buyer—you also have to sell the CPA, the Attorney, and the Bank. The Two Prime Windows: Why Jan-June and Labor Day-Thanksgiving are the golden seasons for M&A activity. Valuation Multiples 101: How to move the needle from a 4x to a 7x multiple by diminishing risk. The Fatal Mistake: Why failing to disclose material facts (like a competitor moving in across the street) is the fastest way to invite litigation. Pre-Exit Hygiene: Simple fixes—from website refreshes to cleaning up the "boneyard"—that create a strong first impression. The "Marathon" Mindset: Why you must keep your foot on the gas even during negotiations. Timestamps: (02:00) From veterinary clinics to M&A: Gregory’s journey. (04:30) The 4 audiences you must convince to close a deal. (07:45) Why tax season dictates the best time to sell. (11:30) Tactical ways to increase your business valuation immediately. (15:10) The biggest mistake sellers make: The danger of hiding the truth. (25:00) The story of the business that was sold four different times. (27:00) About IBA and the importance of performance-based brokerage. -- Gregory Kovsky is the President & CEO of IBA (International Business Associates), the Pacific Northwest’s oldest and largest business brokerage firm. Mr. Kovsky has successfully negotiated the purchase & sale of over 300 privately held companies and family businesses in Washington, Oregon, Alaska, California, North Carolina, and Massachusetts since joining IBA as a mergers & acquisitions intermediary in 1994. He has successfully facilitated transactions involving manufacturing & distribution companies, industrial, marine, and automotive businesses, technology & software companies, and service, education, and retail businesses. A commercial real estate professional for over 30 years, Mr. Kovsky commonly provides his clients with comprehensive representation in selling a business and the associated real estate. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-kovsky-460aab7/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Are you a business owner thinking about the next chapter? Too many entrepreneurs focus entirely on building their company but fail to prepare themselves, and their finances, for the exit. In this episode, Steve sits down with Tim Golas, Partner and Co-Founder at Spurstone, to discuss the tactical realities of selling a business. From the dangers of concentration risk to the "Fish and Chip" method of negotiation, Tim breaks down how to run two parallel paths: optimizing the business for sale and preparing your personal wealth for the liquidity event. Whether you are looking to sell in 2026 or just want to de-risk your current operations, this episode provides a roadmap for maximizing your deal terms and protecting your legacy. -- Timothy Golas is an exit planning advisor, fiduciary, and Partner at Spurstone who serves as a trusted confidant to eight- and nine-figure business owners navigating major financial transitions. A founder himself, he understands the pressure and complexity of building a business and the risks of exiting without the right strategy or support. With more than 20 years of experience advising successful families, executives, and stakeholders across the U.S., Timothy helps founders and multi-owner teams protect what they’ve built, maximize value, and move forward with clarity and confidence. As a Certified Exit Planning Advisor (CEPA), he specializes in value acceleration, tax-efficient exits, and guiding entrepreneurs through Spurstone’s Grind to Good Life framework, from exit preparation to post-exit fulfillment, bringing both expertise and empathy to a deeply personal transition. Website - https://www.spurstone.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothygolas/ Timestamps: (00:22) From Wall Street to Main Street: Tim shares his background at UBS during the financial collapse and why he founded Spurstone to better serve entrepreneurs and business owners. [02:00) The 2-3 Year Window: Why you need to start planning years before the sale. The concept of "Parallel Paths" - preparing the business entity and the personal financials simultaneously. (04:12) Combating Concentration Risk: How to identify if your business is too reliant on one client. Tactical Tip: Tim discusses the strategy of acquiring smaller companies to dilute client concentration before going to market. (08:12) When is the Right Time to Sell?: Navigating age, market conditions, and avoiding "forced" exits (Death, Disability, Divorce). (13:54) Maximizing Valuation: Moving beyond the top-line number. Understanding the difference between EBITDA and Normalized EBITDA, and why "de-risking" (e.g., settling litigation, owning real estate) drives multiples higher. (15:32) The Biggest Mistake Sellers Make: Why you should never wait for an LOI (Letter of Intent) to land on your desk before you start planning. (19:30) The "Fish and Chip" Method: A warning on how buyers use high valuations to hook sellers, only to chip away at the price during due diligence. (21:14) M&A Trends for 2026: What’s happening with Baby Boomers, the trades, and manufacturing sectors. The rise of Private Equity roll-ups. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Are you building a business to own a job, or are you building an asset to sell? In this episode, Steve McGarry sits down with Chris Hallberg, Founder of Business Sergeant and an expert EOS Implementer, to dismantle the complexities of exiting a business. Chris shares his personal journey from law enforcement to entrepreneurship, revealing the expensive mistakes he made during his first "fast and furious" exit. We dive deep into tactical preparation for a sale, including how to remove the "owner dependency" trap, the importance of business operating systems in driving up multiples, and how to navigate the ruthless "Fish and Chip" negotiation tactics used by buyers. Whether you are looking to sell in 12 months or 10 years, this episode provides the blueprint for building a company that attracts top-tier buyers and maximum valuation. In this episode, we cover: -- Chris Hallberg is a high-energy entrepreneurial coach, facilitator, and Founder of GoExpand, an officially licensed EOS execution platform, dedicated to helping leadership teams build clarity, accountability, and healthy growth. As a seasoned Certified EOS Implementer®, Chris brings over a decade of full-time EOS experience working with companies across industries to align vision with execution and drive transformative results. Known for his direct yet kind communication style and practical mindset, he has helped more than 100 leadership teams foster world-class cultures and achieve measurable success. Chris blends disciplined operating system implementation with a people-first approach that empowers leaders to get what they want from their business and have fun doing it. Websites - https://bizsgt.com/ - https://goexpand.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hallberg-01516315/ -- Timestamps: (00:24) – From Uniform to Suit: Chris’s transition from Military Police and Sheriff Deputy to high-growth entrepreneur. (01:42) – The "Expedient" Exit Mistake: Why selling too fast cost Chris a fortune (and how to avoid it). (03:31) – Golden Handcuffs: How to structure your leadership team so the business survives without you. (07:14) – The "Fish and Chip" Model: Understanding the brutal reality of due diligence and last-minute price chiseling. (10:23) – Timing the Market: Assessing trends (like AI) to know when your industry valuation has peaked. (14:19) – Leadership Red Flags: Why "warm and fuzzy" leadership fails during the cold scrutiny of investment bankers. (20:49) – Driving Valuation with EOS: How installing a Business Operating System can double or triple your multiple. 25:28 – The Transparency Dilemma: How to tell your team you are selling without causing a panic (The "Growth Capital" script). (29:08) – The Halo Effect: Why hiring veterans and Special Ops leaders can transform your civilian workforce. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Are you trying to grow your business by 10% year over year? You might be leaving massive wealth on the table. In this episode, we sit down with Tom Shipley, a former Special Forces operator turned serial entrepreneur and aggressive investor. Tom challenges the traditional startup narrative with a shocking reality: Growing organically might increase your value by 50% over five years, but buying competitors can increase it by 1,200%. Tom shares his incredible journey from the dot-com bust, where he was days away from missing payroll, to buying a $15M division of Boise Cascade without using his own capital. We unpack the "Programmatic M&A" playbook, how to use acquisitions to solve operational weaknesses, and why the best path to a massive exit is often buying your way there. -- Tom Shipley is a serial entrepreneur and M&A strategist known for creating the “Add a Zero” growth philosophy, which helps founders rapidly scale their businesses through strategic acquisitions. From his early career as an IDF special forces operator to building and advising brands that have generated more than $2 billion in revenue, Tom brings a rare combination of disciplined execution and bold dealmaking. A pioneer of programmatic M&A for mid-market companies, he has raised over $100 million, led multiple acquisition platforms, and now teaches 7 to 9 figure founders how to accelerate growth, close capability gaps, and engineer premium exits through smart, repeatable deals. Websites - https://www.tshipley.com/ - https://dealconlive.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/t-shipley/ Time Stamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:47 - Buying a division of a Fortune 500 company without cash 05:05 - Scaling a beauty brand from $30k to $100M+ via acquisition 08:09 - How Mezzanine debt works (and why it’s better than pure equity) 12:51 - The Golden Stat: 50% vs. 1,200% Enterprise Value growth 17:58 - The thought exercise that will force you to raise your prices today 20:41 - The biggest mistakes entrepreneurs make when selling 24:14 - Why "Day One" after closing is the most dangerous time 27:31 - What is Programmatic M&A? -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Are you running your business, or is it running you? In this episode, we sit down with Alexis Sikorsky, co-founder of Nightscale, who reveals the brutal truth about the "Grind" and the specific strategies he used to exit his banking software company for a massive multiple. If you are a founder stuck at the $5M–$10M revenue plateau, this episode is a masterclass in cashing out. Alexis breaks down the "$50 Million Mistake", a calculation of the money and time he lost by not knowing the secrets of Private Equity earlier, and how you can avoid it. What You’ll Learn: The "Fish and Chip" Trap: How Private Equity firms lure founders with high valuations only to chip away at the price during due diligence—and how to stop them. Nominal EBITDA vs. EBITDA: The financial metric that matters more than your bottom line. Learn how "dressing the bride" and identifying add-backs can instantly increase your valuation. The Magic Number: Why a $40M valuation is the specific target for a lifestyle where you never have to touch your capital again. The Due Diligence Reverse Card: How to investigate a PE firm by calling the founders they don't want you to talk to. Escaping the Operator Trap: Why you need to fire yourself from day-to-day operations to make your company sellable. -- Alexis Sikorsky is a seasoned entrepreneur, strategic advisor, and #1 international best-selling author who helps founders and SMEs scale with confidence, make smarter strategic decisions, and prepare for long-term growth and successful exits. Over his career, he has founded, scaled, and led multiple companies, including building and selling a software business to private equity in a nine-figure transaction. He is the founder of Sikorsky Consulting Ltd. and a co-founder of KnightScale Partners, where he works closely with founders as a true operator partner, providing experienced, founder-to-founder guidance on scaling, leadership, and value creation. Holding an EMBA from Oxford University, Alexis blends real-world entrepreneurial experience with strategic insight to help business owners future-proof their companies and navigate critical inflection points. Website - https://www.knightscalepartners.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-sikorsky-consulting/ -- Time Stamps: (01:11) Surviving the 2008 crash: Losing 75% of revenue overnight. (03:46) The "Unbelievable" Offer: Selling for 11x EBITDA based on a future plan. (06:00) Calculating the $50 Million / 5-Year Mistake. (08:59) When is the right time to sell? (The mathematics of the exit). (14:00) Red Flags: Detecting the "Fish and Chip" strategy. (20:30) How to boost valuation using Nominal EBITDA and non-recurring costs. (27:30) Why you should do M&A earlier than you think. -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- A quick note on audio: We experienced some technical gremlins with the microphones during this recording. While the sound quality isn't perfect, the quality of the information is 10/10. Is your business sitting on digital gold, or did you buy a liability? In this episode, we sit down with Jeffrey Gabriel, the founder of Saw.com and the man who broke the Guinness World Record for the largest domain sale in history, brokering the sale of a domain for $13 million. Jeff takes us behind the scenes of the high-stakes world of "online real estate." Whether you are a bootstrapper looking for a creative way to secure a premium .com, or an investor looking to understand the wild valuation swings between .net, .ai, and .io, this episode is a masterclass in digital assets. We dive deep into how to value a name, how to negotiate deal structures that require $0 down, and why the "Chinese Chip" market and AI trends are reshaping the internet. In this episode, you’ll learn: The $13M Deal: The true story behind the complex bankruptcy sale. Valuation Framework: The specific metrics Jeff uses to determine if a domain is worth $5,000 or $500,000 (Length, CPC, and Universality). Creative Financing: How to acquire a six-figure domain name using "Earnest Money" and lease-to-own structures, perfect for cash-strapped startups. The TLD Debate: Why .net is the "New Balance" of domains, and when you should actually buy a .ai or .io. Market Trends: From the "Chinese Chip" market to the Crypto crash and the current AI boom. Timestamps: (02:36) From selling loans to selling the internet: Jeff’s entry into the domain space. (11:49) Breaking the World Record: The logistics of selling [suspicious link removed] for $13 Million. (15:32) Business Strategy: Should you buy the .com, .net, or .ai? (20:50) The Friend.com case study: Spending $2M on a domain for viral marketing. (23:51) The Valuation Formula: How to calculate the worth of a URL. (30:29) Deal Structuring: How to use options and milestones to buy domains without full capital upfront. (37:34) The history of domain trends: From Ringtones to Chinese "Chips" to AI. -- Jeffrey M. Gabriel, founder and CEO of Saw.com, is a domain industry veteran with over 15 years of experience and over $550 million in completed transactions. Known for high-profile deals like the Guinness World Record-breaking sale of Sex.com for $13 million, the top .ORG sale of Poker.org for $1 million, and the recent sales of Diamond.com, AI.com, Media.com, Data.ai and countless others. Jeffrey and his team have a reputation for delivering exceptional value to clients. Previously, he held key roles at Uniregistry, Igloo.com, and Sedo. An active industry expert, Jeffrey has contributed to Forbes and is a member of the Internet Commerce Association, frequently sharing insights on domain acquisition, sales, and strategy. Website - https://saw.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreymgabriel/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- What happens when your business explodes with growth at the exact moment your personal life falls apart? In this episode, we sit down with Chelsea Jones, co-founder of Sunny Road, to unpack a journey that defines entrepreneurial resilience. From losing her life savings on a failed MLM venture to building a successful agency during the chaos of COVID, Chelsea’s story is a masterclass in pivoting. We dive deep into the messy reality of agency life, discussing the "dark side" of partnerships, how to navigate a buyout while battling a cancer diagnosis, and the complexities of merging two seven-figure companies. Chelsea also opens up about the "Napkin Pitch" concept and why women entrepreneurs need to stop waiting for perfection and start selling their vision. If you are an agency owner, an e-commerce founder, or an entrepreneur navigating a transition, this episode offers the blueprint for survival and scale. In this episode, we cover: The "Fail Fast" Mentality: Lessons learned from a $5,000 loss and early MLM failure. The COVID Scale-Up: Going from 5 to 32 employees overnight and the operational debt that followed. The Buyout & The Battle: How Chelsea bought out her burning-out partner while simultaneously undergoing cancer treatment. Merging & AI: Navigating a merger between friends and how AI has slashed design fees from six figures to low fives. The "Napkin Pitch": Why you need to run into the room with your idea before it's fully fleshed out. Exit Strategy: How to prepare your books and your mindset for a sale long before you're ready to leave. Key Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:55) The $5,000 mistake: Learning from early failure (05:14) Scaling during COVID: Managing rapid growth and team burnout (07:27) The Crucible: Buying out a partner while fighting cancer (10:50) Merging companies and the impact of AI on agency pricing (13:21) How to prepare your financials for a merger or exit (18:15) When is the right time to sell? (20:02) The "Napkin Pitch": Overcoming perfectionism in business (23:38) What Sunny Road does for E-Commerce brands -- Chelsea Jones is a visionary e-commerce leader, Shopify Platinum Partner, and co-founder of Sunny Road. She first built her reputation at Chelsea & Rachel Co., the first women-founded agency to achieve Shopify Premier status, where she created high-performing online stores and became a trusted partner for brands looking to scale. In 2023, she joined forces with Drew Himel of Fireside Digital to launch Sunny Road, a digital agency that blends creative excellence with data-driven growth. Today, Chelsea leads with the same passion and client-first approach that have defined her career, helping brands build e-commerce experiences that shine. Website - https://sunnyroad.co/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelsea-jones101/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Most business owners believe selling their company is a single event—a signature on a dotted line. But according to Chris Spratling, Founder of Chalk Hill Blue, treating your exit like an event is the fastest way to leave millions on the table. In this episode, we unpack why the "illusion of readiness" kills deal value and why over half of all founders regret their exit within 12 months. Chris shares his experience from the private equity and consulting worlds to explain exactly what modern buyers are looking for. We move beyond basic EBITDA multiples to discuss the psychology of the seller, how to survive forensic due diligence, and the shift from "growth at all costs" to "predictability." If you are building a business with the intention of selling—whether next year or in a decade—this conversation is your blueprint for maximum value and zero regret. In this episode, you will learn: The "Illusion of Readiness": Why having a profitable business does not mean you have a sellable business. The 8-10 Drivers of Value: What acquirers actually look for (hint: it’s not just your bottom line). Deal Structure Strategy: How to align earn-outs, non-competes, and tax efficiency with your personal life goals. The Negotiation Edge: How one seller secured a 40% premium over the initial offer simply by being better prepared than the buyer. Market Shifts: Why post-COVID buyers are paying for predictability over hockey-stick growth. The Regret Trap: Why 50% of owners hate their deal a year later and how to ensure you aren't one of them. -- Timestamps: (01:49) Why selling is a journey, not an event (03:36) The difference between Perceived Value and Market Value (05:56) Seller Readiness vs. Business Readiness (09:21) How to negotiate deal structures and multiple bids (17:55) How buyer psychology has changed in the last 5 years (22:54) The #1 piece of advice: "Prepare like your life depends on it" -- Chris Spratling is the founder of Chalkhill Blue Limited, a leading business coaching and consulting practice that helps UK business owners scale effectively and prepare for profitable exits. With more than 30 years of experience owning, buying, and selling multiple seven-figure businesses, he brings deep, practical insight to every client engagement. He is also the author of The Exit Roadmap: The Insider’s Guide to Selling Your Business Profitably, where he distills his proven approach to exit planning and leadership transformation, including how to understand whether a business is truly sale-ready. Website - https://chalkhillblue.org/ Check out his book - https://a.co/d/cKVGTFs Take the Exit Readiness Survey - https://chalkhillblue.org/exitreadiness-survey -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- If you're an entrepreneur wondering when to raise capital, how to scale through acquisition, or what really drives valuation multiples, this conversation delivers tactical advice you can actually use. In this episode of The Exit Podcast, James Rose, Founder and CEO of Inflective Group, unpacks the strategic decisions that determine whether a business exits successfully or stalls out. James shares hard-won lessons from his journey building and selling businesses across Eastern Europe, spending over a decade in the startup world, and now helping agency founders navigate their own exits. What You'll Learn On Common Founder Mistakes: Why raising money too early can make your business less acquirable The hidden execution risks that come with rapid scaling How hiring the wrong people costs you 18 months and momentum Why one A-player delivers what five B-players struggle to achieve On Exit Timing and Preparation: Why the best businesses get bought, not sold The truth about "exit prep" and when it becomes a distraction How to know if you're actually ready to scale or should stay focused What life-changing money really means at different stages On Scaling and Valuation: Why small operational improvements won't significantly change your multiple The three paths to scale: raising capital, acquiring competitors, or joining a larger group How to think about EBITDA multiples and what actually moves the needle Why scale is the ultimate multiplier, not process optimization On M&A and Deal Structure: How to create competitive tension in negotiations (and why you need it) The "longest list" negotiation strategy that actually works Why most founders focus on the wrong deal terms Red flags to watch for in private equity deals and earnout structures How minority investments can empower founders instead of limiting them On Growing Through Acquisition: The financial commitment calculation: when will you actually see ROI? Managing the distraction of M&A while protecting your core business Why leverage matters more than scale in acquisitions How to ensure people stay and remain motivated post-acquisition -- James Rose is Founder & Director of Rose Equity Partners and also leads as Founder & Group CEO of Inflectiv Group, bringing over two decades of entrepreneurial leadership in launching, scaling and advising high-growth media, marketing and technology ventures. He has driven commercial strategies and go-to-market execution for private-equity-backed companies while taking revenues from early stage through to £7M+ outcomes. With a deep passion for partnering with ambitious entrepreneurs and creating sustainable value, James combines operational expertise, investor insight and strategic vision to help founder-led businesses navigate growth inflection points and deliver meaningful impact. Website - https://www.inflectivgroup.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesroseequitypartners/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In this episode of The Exit Podcast, host Steve sits down with Lee Smith, an acquisition entrepreneur at Verdani Capital with 12 years of M&A experience. Lee shares hard-won lessons from acquiring 20+ businesses and reveals what buyers really look for when evaluating companies for acquisition. KEY TOPICS COVERED: The #1 Red Flag Buyers See (And How to Fix It) Lee reveals why owner-dependency kills deals and how to build transferability into your business 2-3 years before exit Inside the Valuation Process Real multiples for blue-collar businesses (2-4x true profit, not EBITDA) and why adjusted earnings can backfire Deal Structure That Works How Lee structures acquisitions to align incentives: buying 60-80% stakes with future upside potential that often doubles the founder's payday The Biggest Deal Mistakes From buying distressed companies to discovering hidden equity agreements 30 minutes before closing—lessons learned the hard way The £1 Business Acquisition Strategy How Lee has purchased 20 businesses for just one pound, including a remarkable turnaround that saved a founder from £500K in debt When Concentration Risk Isn't a Deal-Breaker Strategic approaches to handling clients that represent 60-70% of revenue, including key customer clauses in SPAs Building Trust in M&A Deals Why "two ears, one mouth" matters more than spreadsheets when structuring successful acquisitions The EOS Framework for Integration Using simple systems to manage acquired businesses without disrupting teams or culture -- Lee Smith is a values-driven entrepreneur and dealmaker with more than 25 years of experience and a respected track record in UK M&A. After completing his first acquisitions in 2014, he went on to buy and turn around nine underperforming companies before founding Verdani Capital, where he continues to acquire and scale larger UK businesses. To date, Lee has completed 26 acquisitions across sectors such as Manufacturing, Professional Services, Construction, HVAC, and IT Services, supported by training from leading M&A mentors in the UK and US. His current portfolio generates over £2M in annual profit with a clear path toward £10M, strengthened by three strategic exits in 2024. Grounded in spirituality and conscious leadership, Lee combines substance, strategy, and long-term thinking in every partnership. Website - https://www.leeasmith.co.uk/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Most founders obsess over the deal - valuations, terms, negotiations. But few ever ask the most important question: What comes next for you? In this episode of The Exit, Steve chats with Carolyn Nolan, CEO and Private Wealth Advisor at TNG Private Wealth, about what really happens after you sell. From emotional comedowns to tax traps, Carolyn reveals why the money is actually the easy part—and how to build a life that’s just as successful as your exit. 🎯 Key Takeaways: Why entrepreneurs struggle to “switch off” after selling The one question that reframes your entire next chapter The two extremes that destroy post-exit happiness Avoiding the tax blindside that catches almost everyone “Workhorse vs. racehorse” investing explained Why your discretionary expenses probably aren’t Passing wealth down—without raising entitled kids The surprising loneliness that follows exits ⚠️ Common Post-Exit Mistakes: Ignoring tax implications Overspending on real estate Gifting too early Freezing up and spending nothing out of guilt Waiting until after the exit to plan your life -- Carolyn Nolan’s superpower is igniting positive energy and meaningful action by brainstorming what could be, unapologetically speaking her truth, and creating tools for the taking in her ‘CNo toolbox’. She helps people stay strategically prepared, simplify life’s juggling act, and embrace change with confidence, inspiration, and a sense of adventure. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynlaunienolan/ Website - https://www.ameripriseadvisors.com/team/tng-private-wealth/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In this episode of The Exit, host Steve sits down with Callum Laing, partner at Unity Group, author, and serial entrepreneur who has helped take more than 100 companies public. With decades of experience across Asia, Europe, and beyond, Callum shares his contrarian approach to growth, exits, and how founders can use the capital markets as a scaling tool, not just a finish line. From his first recruitment business during the dot-com boom to running a global group that helps small businesses access public market advantages. Callum has seen it all, from booms, busts to breakthroughs. He explains why most entrepreneurs under-optimize for profit when gearing up to sell, how boards can fast-track business maturity, and why timing the market is less about prediction and more about preparation. Callum’s insights extend beyond valuation multiples. He talks candidly about common M&A mistakes, the power of strategic positioning, and why founders should sell “as soon as they can” to regain their most valuable resources: time and capital. This episode is a masterclass in scaling smart, negotiating with leverage, and learning faster through failure. -- Callum Laing is a seasoned entrepreneur, investor, and M&A specialist with over two decades of experience building and scaling companies across multiple industries. As a Partner at Unity Group and Founder of the Global Investment Leaders Directive (GILD) and the Veblen Director Programme, he helps business owners unlock liquidity, accelerate growth, and gain access to global capital markets. A passionate advocate for ethical capitalism and entrepreneur-led innovation, Callum has worked extensively with private equity firms, family offices, and public markets to bridge the gap between fast-growing private enterprises and institutional investors. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/callumlaing/ Website - https://callumlaing.com/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- Danny Davis, CEO of Hyperfi, shares hard-won lessons from multiple exits including taking a cannabis tech company public and missing an eight-figure investment in Loom. Key Topics: • How a hospital bed insight led to patenting the world's first cannabis cartridge filling system • Why board control is make-or-break for successful exits (and what happened when he lost it) • The revenue vs. investment dilemma: when to kill your cash cow for the bigger bet • Being Loom's first customer, offered to be first investor, and saying no—an eight-figure miss • Why he only invests in founder-led companies now (even controversial ones like Travis's Uber) • Building Hyperfi: applying Ben Horowitz's People → Product → Profit formula • The "N+1 strategy" for risk management every entrepreneur needs • Why timing is everything: two years makes the difference between too early and too late Biggest Takeaway: "For every person I talk to that has hindsight, they always had an inkling. The mistakes happen when you sell yourself short or get out too early." Danny went from 13 years in corporate IT to multiple successful exits by spotting pattern-breaking opportunities in taboo markets. Now he's building Hyperfi, an AI-powered IT procurement platform solving a $1.5 trillion problem. -- Danny Davis is a multi-exit founder, technologist, and hands-on operator known for building companies that push industries forward. From taking Convectium public at a $100M+ valuation to leading W3Box.io’s blockchain and AI-powered membership systems for global brands, his ventures bridge the physical and digital worlds. Holding eight patents across connected packaging and authentication, Danny’s work sits at the intersection of design, code, and commerce. Now founder of HyperFi, an AI-native enterprise IT platform, he leads with precision, purpose, and his guiding motto: “Break to Fix.” LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannydavis12/ Website - https://hyperfi.ai/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

De-Risk, Delegate, and Deliver a Great Exit: How Certified Exit Planner Julie Keyes Helps Founders Sell Smart Business Valuation Text Ad: Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In this episode of The Exit, Steve welcomes Julie Keyes, a serial entrepreneur turned Certified Exit Planner and faculty member at the Exit Planning Institute (EPI). Julie shares how her own difficult exit nearly two decades ago inspired her to guide business owners toward smoother, more profitable transitions. Julie breaks down exit preparedness into two core pillars: owner readiness and business readiness. She stresses that true readiness starts long before a sale: owners must update legal, tax, and estate plans, and ensure their personal finances and mindset are aligned with life after the exit. On the business side, she focuses on transferability, decentralizing the owner’s role, building strong teams, and creating a company that can thrive without its founder. Julie also discusses timing the sale, navigating the “five Ds” (death, divorce, disagreement, disability, and distress), and structuring negotiations with the help of skilled M&A advisors. Her message is clear: “Don’t wait for an offer to learn what your business is worth.” This episode is a practical masterclass on planning early, reducing risk, and protecting your life’s work. -- Julie Keyes is the founder and owner of KeyeStrategies, an advisory firm helping entrepreneurs build enterprise value and prepare for successful business transitions. A lifelong entrepreneur turned Certified Exit Planning and Value Growth Adviser, Julie brings firsthand experience from starting, growing, and selling multiple companies. Recognized twice as EPI’s “Thought Leader of the Year,” she’s a national speaker, faculty member for the CEPA Program, and author of Poised for Exit: A Woman Entrepreneur’s Guide to Business Transition. LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliekeyes/ Website - https://keyestrategies.com/ Podcast - https://keyestrategies.com/podcast/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/

-- Want a quick estimate of how much your business is worth? With our free valuation calculator, answer a few questions about your business, and you’ll get an immediate estimate of the value of your business. You might be surprised by how much you can get for it: https://flippa.com/exit -- In this episode of The Exit, serial entrepreneur Peter Korbel shares how a decade of reinvention, from running a colorful D.C. food truck to founding a Manhattan coworking space, ultimately led him to build and sell StoreMe, an on-demand luggage storage startup acquired by London-based Stasher. Peter reveals how StoreMe began with a simple frustration: nowhere to drop off his gym bag or Airbnb guests’ luggage. Armed with hustle and $500K in seed funding, he personally signed up 100 stores on foot, grew to over 600 partner locations across the U.S., and turned a profit within a year. But when COVID-19 hit, travel stopped overnight. Rather than quit, Peter rebuilt, and positioned StoreMe for acquisition by a competitor he’d nurtured a relationship with for years. His exit story blends sharp business instincts with deep personal reflection, including the loss of his father and the importance of staying organized, transparent, and resilient. Today, Peter channels those lessons into 135 Madison, his consulting firm helping founders raise capital, and his new Substack, Startup Anatomy. His advice: “It’s all a hustle. Every lesson compounds if you just keep going.” -- Peter Korbel is a seasoned business consultant and tech founder with over 15 years of startup experience, known for turning bold ideas into thriving ventures. With one successful exit to his name, he’s launched and led companies including Washington D.C.’s first food-truck operation, one of the world’s earliest on-demand luggage storage platforms, and Blender Workspace, a high-end co-working hub for entrepreneurs in New York City. A Columbia University graduate with an MBA from The George Washington University, Peter now advises founders and investors across Manhattan and the Bay Area, blending sharp strategy, creative execution, and an unmatched entrepreneurial network. Website - https://www.135madison.com/ -- The Exit—Presented By Flippa: A 30-minute podcast featuring expert entrepreneurs who have been there and done it. The Exit talks to operators who have bought and sold a business. You’ll learn how they did it, why they did it, and get exposure to the world of exits, a world occupied by a small few, but accessible to many. To listen to the podcast or get daily listing updates, click on flippa.com/the-exit-podcast/