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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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ZipRecruiter Financial Gymnastics

ZipRecruiter Financial Gymnastics

Aug 14, 2026·59:24

59:24

Get ready for a jam-packed episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Emi B serve up their trademark mix of industry news, corporate earnings, and unfiltered banter. The episode kicks...

Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, Dice, Spark Hire, Careerminds, & Jobrapido

Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, Dice, Spark Hire, Careerminds, & Jobrapido

Aug 13, 2026·5:00

5:00

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Ageism, Algo-Bias, and Corp Naughtiness w/ Cassell Kaye

Ageism, Algo-Bias, and Corp Naughtiness w/ Cassell Kaye

Aug 11, 2026·32:31

32:31

Ageism is out in the open, AI is masking mass corporate cost-cutting, and 1 in 3 job postings might be completely fake. In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, 20-year HR executive Cassell Kaye from The Reframed...

Indeed Pauses, Fiverr Falls & Rippling Ransacks

Indeed Pauses, Fiverr Falls & Rippling Ransacks

Aug 7, 2026·59:39

59:39

The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast with Emi and Lieven is officially live, and it is a certified must-watch. In this episode, the crew dives straight into a massive legal showdown brewing in the tech world...

Shredded: Foundational, LinkedIn, Buildforce, Deel, Clarity, Runlayer, Rippling, & More

Shredded: Foundational, LinkedIn, Buildforce, Deel, Clarity, Runlayer, Rippling, & More

Aug 6, 2026·6:42

6:42

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

90 Days Hired, They Stay a Year w/ Jolene Hostal

90 Days Hired, They Stay a Year w/ Jolene Hostal

Aug 4, 2026·26:33

26:33

In this episode, HR veteran Jolene Hostal joins Joel and Chad to discuss how a legacy brand like Stanley Steemer stays "young and vibrant" in a competitive labor market. Managing high-volume hiring for thousands of...

LinkedIn Sloppin, Google's No Click AI Poppin', and OpenAI's Jail Breakin'

LinkedIn Sloppin, Google's No Click AI Poppin', and OpenAI's Jail Breakin'

Jul 31, 2026·1:01:32

1:01:32

Is LinkedIn turning into a bot-ridden wasteland? Is Google actively blowing up its own revenue model? And are AI agents already plotting their escape from human containment? The crew is back together, hot out of the...

Shredded: Kforce, Indeed, OpenAI, ZipRecruiter, Skello, Fiverr, & More

Shredded: Kforce, Indeed, OpenAI, ZipRecruiter, Skello, Fiverr, & More

Jul 30, 2026·4:30

4:30

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Startup Nightmares w/ Kristy McCann

Startup Nightmares w/ Kristy McCann

Jul 28, 2026·37:08

37:08

On this week's The Chad & Cheese Podcast interview episode, Joel and Chad sit down with Kristy McCann founder, former CEO of Skill Cycle, and overall HR force of nature who proves the ultimate golden rule: Do NOT mess...

Indeed Terms, LinkedIn Ghosts, & Google Pitchforks

Indeed Terms, LinkedIn Ghosts, & Google Pitchforks

Jul 24, 2026·58:10

58:10

The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast kicks off with hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash diving into a massive recap of the World Cup tournament, complete with a look at the spectacular multi-artist halftime...

Shredded: Signal Labs, BrassRing, Recur Software, PCRecruiter, Refer, Deel, Talentware, & More

Shredded: Signal Labs, BrassRing, Recur Software, PCRecruiter, Refer, Deel, Talentware, & More

Jul 23, 2026·5:23

5:23

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

AI Takes The Boring Part w/ Adam Godson

AI Takes The Boring Part w/ Adam Godson

Jul 21, 2026·30:25

30:25

The TL;DR: What happens when HR tech's most prominent conversational AI platform gets swallowed by an enterprise titan? In this high-octane episode, Chad and Cheese sit down with Adam Godson—the newly crowned GM of...

Indeed Cautionary Tales

Indeed Cautionary Tales

Jul 17, 2026·1:03:20

1:03:20

The boys are diving headfirst into the algorithmic trenches as LinkedIn battles a massive influx of AI-generated content that is actively derailing user feeds. This automation wave is sparking a larger debate on the...

Shredded: Mercor, Deeptune, Sherpa, Employ, ID.me, Warp, Pebl, & More

Shredded: Mercor, Deeptune, Sherpa, Employ, ID.me, Warp, Pebl, & More

Jul 16, 2026·4:54

4:54

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Hire Fast or Lose w/ Josh Secrest

Hire Fast or Lose w/ Josh Secrest

Jul 14, 2026·48:06

48:06

Chad and Cheese drag Josh Secrest, Paradox’s Head of Marketing, into the hot seat. Josh’s resume boasts stints at both Abercrombie & Fitch and McDonald's. Once the guys stop badgering Josh about the Golden Arches, they...

Korn Ferry Swallows AMS, Handshake Grabs Uplimit

Korn Ferry Swallows AMS, Handshake Grabs Uplimit

Jul 10, 2026·1:15:56

1:15:56

Hide your kids and grab your bourbon, because The Chad & Cheese Podcast is back! Joel is finally home from his pretentious European tour—blaming jet lag for being completely rusty—and Emi is here to keep him from...

Shredded: Korn Ferry, AMS, Microsoft, Uplimit, Handshake, Meta, & More

Shredded: Korn Ferry, AMS, Microsoft, Uplimit, Handshake, Meta, & More

Jul 9, 2026·4:31

4:31

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Hiring Became Our Edge with Kristen Reilly

Hiring Became Our Edge with Kristen Reilly

Jul 7, 2026·29:10

29:10

"We went from 34% fully staffed to 96% fully staffed" Imagine needing to hire 3,000 part-time coaches in a chaotic 6-to-8-week summer sprint. For Elevo Learning, missing that target meant operational nightmares and...

Ageism in Tech: Dan Lyons on ‘Disrupted,’ Silicon Valley & Toxic Culture

Ageism in Tech: Dan Lyons on ‘Disrupted,’ Silicon Valley & Toxic Culture

Jul 3, 2026·1:21:27

1:21:27

Maureen sits down with Dan Lyons — bestselling author of Disrupted, former Newsweek and Forbes journalist, and writer for HBO’s hit series Silicon Valley. At 52 years old, Dan made the jump from traditional media into a...

Your Best Hire Already Left w/ Gustavo Serbia

Your Best Hire Already Left w/ Gustavo Serbia

Jun 30, 2026·36:55

36:55

Next on Chad & Cheese: Hired to Chair in 3 Days ✂️🔥 Chad and Joel are punching the recruiting industry right where it hurts with Gustavo Serbia, CHRO at Hair Cuttery Family of Brands. They dive into the wild...

The Snapchat & Anthropic Hype Machines

The Snapchat & Anthropic Hype Machines

Jun 26, 2026·54:30

54:30

On this week's episode: The Football Flops: Portugal woke up, while England was lulled to sleep and Emi is losing her mind over corporate "hydration breaks". The Hype Block: The hosts rip into Snapchat’s new $2,300...

Shredded: LinkedIn, Adzuna, Autodesk, Microsoft, Deel, Oracle, Fika Jobs, & More

Shredded: LinkedIn, Adzuna, Autodesk, Microsoft, Deel, Oracle, Fika Jobs, & More

Jun 25, 2026·6:38

6:38

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu

Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu

Jun 23, 2026·31:26

31:26

Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing a massive identity...

Indeed's AI Bias Machine

Indeed's AI Bias Machine

Jun 19, 2026·48:18

48:18

If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Lieven are back to...

Shredded: Stepful, Google, Orbio, iCIMS, NewCore, ZRG, Fortium, & More

Shredded: Stepful, Google, Orbio, iCIMS, NewCore, ZRG, Fortium, & More

Jun 18, 2026·5:54

5:54

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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