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Hosted by James Lawrence - Co-Founder of Rocket Agency and B&T Marketer of the Year finalist, each episode features candid conversations with marketers, leaders and innovators on what’s really working in today’s fast-changing landscape. This is the definitive podcast for Australian Marketers.
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From the Archives: Persuasion, Manipulation and Behavioural Psychology: How Consumer Choice is Shaped w. Thinkerbell's Dan Monheit

From the Archives: Persuasion, Manipulation and Behavioural Psychology: How Consumer Choice is Shaped w. Thinkerbell's Dan Monheit

Dec 16, 2025·

In marketing, there exists a fine line between influencing decisions and crossing into manipulation. The difference? One builds trust while the other erodes it. Host James Lawrence chats with Dan Monheit, Chief CX...

101. Attribution Is Breaking: How Marketers Should Rethink Paid Media in 2026 w. Rocket Agency's Adrian Oguz

101. Attribution Is Breaking: How Marketers Should Rethink Paid Media in 2026 w. Rocket Agency's Adrian Oguz

Dec 2, 2025·

As platforms push Performance Max, Advantage+ and new modelling systems, we’re entering a world where results often look better in-platform than they do in reality. Behind the scenes, attribution is becoming harder and...

100. How Attention Is Rewriting the Rules of Advertising w. Amplified's Dr. Karen Nelson-Field

100. How Attention Is Rewriting the Rules of Advertising w. Amplified's Dr. Karen Nelson-Field

Nov 18, 2025·

Marketers have long optimised for visibility and memory, but in our metric-focused industry, are we measuring what really matters? In this episode of the Smarter Marketer Podcast, host James Lawrence speaks with Dr...

99. Why “In-House vs Agency” Misses the Point w. TrinityP3's Darren Woolley

99. Why “In-House vs Agency” Misses the Point w. TrinityP3's Darren Woolley

Nov 4, 2025·

As 2025 comes to a close, the conversation around in-housing has never been more confusing. With rising pressures on budgets and the disruption caused by AI, businesses are being forced to rethink what the right...

98. The Growth of Outdoor Media in Australia w. oOH! Media’s Josh Gurgiel

98. The Growth of Outdoor Media in Australia w. oOH! Media’s Josh Gurgiel

Oct 21, 2025·

Once thought of as a “traditional” channel, outdoor has once again become one of the most creative and technology-integrated mediums in modern marketing. As audiences move faster and attention gets harder to hold...

97. Leadership in Marketing: How Today’s Marketing Leaders are Creating Impact w. Emma Logan

97. Leadership in Marketing: How Today’s Marketing Leaders are Creating Impact w. Emma Logan

Oct 7, 2025·

What does it really mean to lead marketing in 2025? In this episode of the Smarter Marketer Podcast, Host James Lawrence sits down with executive brand strategist Emma Logan to unpack the realities facing modern...

96. Buying Outcomes, Not Deliverables: Rethinking Client-Agency Partnerships w. Blair Enns

96. Buying Outcomes, Not Deliverables: Rethinking Client-Agency Partnerships w. Blair Enns

Sep 23, 2025·

For decades the agency-client relationship has worked on a transactional view of marketing and creative services. Agencies gave away their best thinking upfront, clients judged on surface-level ideas and both sides...

95. How to Rank in ChatGPT w. Joe Alder

95. How to Rank in ChatGPT w. Joe Alder

Sep 9, 2025·

Ranking in ChatGPT is now one of the most urgent challenges in digital marketing. With millions of Australians using AI search every week, the question for in-house marketers isn’t whether ChatGPT is shaping buyer...

94. Winning B2B Messaging: How to Build a Perspective That Cuts Through w. Alex James

94. Winning B2B Messaging: How to Build a Perspective That Cuts Through w. Alex James

Aug 26, 2025·

As competition heats up across professional services, simply telling people what you do is no longer enough. The difference between winning and blending in ultimately comes down to perspective: how you see the world...

93. Marketing for Turbulent Times - Kantar and the Australian Marketing Landscape

93. Marketing for Turbulent Times - Kantar and the Australian Marketing Landscape

Aug 12, 2025·

Marketing in 2025 is being shaped by what some experts call a 'polycrisis' - disruption layered upon disruption. From global conflicts to inflation to AI-driven job shifts, the market conditions facing both brands and...

92. Current vs Future Demand: Why Mental Availability Matters w. Nick Palmer

92. Current vs Future Demand: Why Mental Availability Matters w. Nick Palmer

Jul 29, 2025·

Most marketers are pressured to focus their energy on the 5% of buyers ready to purchase today, but what about the 95% who aren’t in market yet? Ignoring them likely means missing your biggest growth opportunity...

91. The Secret to B2B Marketing: Owning a Perspective w. Alex James

91. The Secret to B2B Marketing: Owning a Perspective w. Alex James

Jul 15, 2025·

B2B service firms have been told to niche down, build helpful content and trust the funnel. But in today’s competitive market, where everyone is applying the same formula, it’s not enough to stand out. When every firm...

90. Marketing to Gen Z and Gen Alpha w. Katy Richardson

90. Marketing to Gen Z and Gen Alpha w. Katy Richardson

Jul 1, 2025·

What happens when a generation that grew up online starts leading your marketing conversations? Host James Lawrence speaks with Katy Richardson, Global Head of Marketing at student living app Housr, about how Gen Z...

89. Beyond the Hype: AI’s Real Impact on Australian Marketers in 2025 w. David Lawrence

89. Beyond the Hype: AI’s Real Impact on Australian Marketers in 2025 w. David Lawrence

Jun 17, 2025·

We’re halfway through 2025 and AI is the buzzword on everyone's lips. And while it’s changing marketing fast, is the hype legitimate? Host James Lawrence is joined by Rocket Agency’s co-founder, David Lawrence, to...

88. Dr. Robert Cialdini on Persuasion and Influence in Modern Marketing

88. Dr. Robert Cialdini on Persuasion and Influence in Modern Marketing

Jun 3, 2025·

What makes people say "yes"? Rocket Agency’s Co-Founder James Lawrence sits down with Dr. Robert Cialdini, the godfather of influence and the world’s foremost authority on the psychology of persuasion, to talk about the...

87. Is ChatGPT Killing Google? Optimising for LLMs, AIO, and the Truth About AI and SEO in 2025 w. Joe Alder

87. Is ChatGPT Killing Google? Optimising for LLMs, AIO, and the Truth About AI and SEO in 2025 w. Joe Alder

May 20, 2025·

With the growth of AI and LLMs like ChatGPT, the question "Is Google dying?" is often being asked. In this episode, James Lawrence sits down with Rocket’s Head of SEO, Joe Alder, to cut through the hype and discuss the...

86. Why Client-Agency Relationships Fail - And How to Fix Them w. Drew McLellan

86. Why Client-Agency Relationships Fail - And How to Fix Them w. Drew McLellan

May 6, 2025·

In-house marketers and agency leaders don’t always speak the same language - but when they do, the results can be game-changing. In this episode, host James Lawrence sits down with Drew McLellan, CEO of the Agency...

85. How to Build Desire in Luxury and Property Markets w. Giverny Reid

85. How to Build Desire in Luxury and Property Markets w. Giverny Reid

Apr 22, 2025·

People don’t buy luxury for utility. In high-end markets, purchase decisions are driven by emotion, identity and status - not features or price points. For marketers in the high-end space, this changes everything. In...

84. State of the Pitch 2025 w. Darren Woolley

84. State of the Pitch 2025 w. Darren Woolley

Apr 8, 2025·

The agency pitch process is one of the most important - yet deeply flawed - aspects of the marketer-agency relationship. In this Smarter Marketer Podcast episode, Host James Lawrence talks about the realities of...

83. Emails with Mailchimp: The Power of First-Party Data, AI, Great Creative and More w. Anthony Capano

83. Emails with Mailchimp: The Power of First-Party Data, AI, Great Creative and More w. Anthony Capano

Mar 25, 2025·

Email marketing might not be the newest toy in the digital toolbox, but it’s still one of the most powerful. In a time when AI is transforming how we work and big platforms are making it harder for businesses to own...

82. Rethinking Search: Google vs ChatGPT, Attribution, Audiences and the Future w. Rand Fishkin

82. Rethinking Search: Google vs ChatGPT, Attribution, Audiences and the Future w. Rand Fishkin

Mar 11, 2025·

Digital isn’t what it used to be and neither is marketing. In this episode of Smarter Marketer, James welcomes back industry legend Rand Fishkin, Co-Founder and CEO of Sparktoro, to cut through the noise as they discuss...

81. The Power of Account-Based Marketing w. Paola Piccinno

81. The Power of Account-Based Marketing w. Paola Piccinno

Feb 25, 2025·

Broad-reach campaigns are simply not enough sometimes. Account-Based Marketing (ABM) is emerging as an extremely effective strategy for businesses that are seeking deeper engagement, stronger relationships with their...

80. Marketing Under Pressure: Managing Stress, Sleep and Decision-Making w. Dr. Jemma King

80. Marketing Under Pressure: Managing Stress, Sleep and Decision-Making w. Dr. Jemma King

Feb 11, 2025·

In marketing, deadlines are relentless and expectations are high. It’s critical to manage stress and make clear-headed decisions under pressure. In this episode of Smarter Marketer, host James Lawrence chats with Dr...

79. Persuasion, Manipulation and Behavioural Psychology: How Consumer Choice is Shaped w. Dan Monheit

79. Persuasion, Manipulation and Behavioural Psychology: How Consumer Choice is Shaped w. Dan Monheit

Jan 28, 2025·

In marketing, there exists a fine line between influencing decisions and crossing into manipulation. The difference? One builds trust while the other erodes it. Host James Lawrence chats with Dan Monheit, Chief CX...

78. Answering Your Marketing Questions for 2025 w. Joe Alder, Sam Dodson and Mariano Di Lascio

78. Answering Your Marketing Questions for 2025 w. Joe Alder, Sam Dodson and Mariano Di Lascio

Jan 14, 2025·

Rocket Agency’s top experts and Host James Lawrence discuss what will work in digital marketing in 2025 and how to set yourself up for success with the latest on SEO, digital and creative. Key Takeaways: How to navigate...

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