Pivot Podcast

“You gotta always believe. When you get knocked down off your feet, there’s just something that lights your fire and makes you keep getting up and fighting, just to keep going because you have a purpose.” Malcolm Butler 2x Super Bowl Champion In this special episode of The Pivot Podcast live from Disney's Animal Kingdom, Malcolm Butler joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a deeply personal and behind-the-scenes story leading up to one of the most iconic moments in NFL history. Butler relives his “magical” Super Bowl XLIX interception vs Russell Wilson—the split-second decision that changed his life, secured the Patriots’ championship, and delivered him sports' famous words- "Im going to Disney World." Malcolm opens up about what it was like to go from undrafted rookie to national hero overnight, from working at Popeyes to signing with the Patriots to playing for Bill Belichick, He shares the mindset he developed on and off the field and explains how one can never truly being prepared for a singular moment but can always being ready to compete. He reveals life lessons from Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk and Danny Amendola that helped shape the man he is today. Although his storied NFL career started magical and yielded him two Super Bowl rings, Malcolm shares the hard times and reveals the emotions behind sitting out vs the Patriots loss to Eagles in SBLII and how the pain truly affected him. From the locker room interactions to the surreal whirlwind of fame, Malcolm shares powerful insights on trust, readiness, and believing in yourself when the world doubts you. Now in his post NFL life, Malcolm is passing on his experiences sharing that coaching high school football and being a father prove to be the most rewarding aspect of his life. Authentic, inspiring, and full of raw reflection—this conversation shows a side of Malcolm Butler you’ve never heard before. Tap in as The Pivot takes you right into the heart of the magic that makes us all believe anything worth having and working for is possible. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button. Special thank you to our partners and friends at Disney World, Check out special offers and more information about visiting Walt Disney World here: http://di.sn/60037CGsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I feel like no one believes in me and that’s my approach. I got the underdog mentality and that’s what I’ll have all my life.” Diego Pavia We headed to Nashville to sit with one of sports' biggest breakout stars who's improbable journey has landed him in the national spotlight and on this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we learn more about one of the most electrifying and unlikely stars in college football today—Diego Pavia. Once an undersized and overlooked kid grinding his way through JUCO ball, Pavia’s journey to the national spotlight is nothing short of remarkable as he just etched himself a part of history being named a 2025 Heisman Finalist. He opens up about how he went from fighting for reps at a junior college to becoming the quarterback who completely transformed the culture at Vanderbilt, leading the Commodores to relevance in the SEC and putting the program back on the map. Despite a season worthy of national recognition—and even securing a spot as a Heisman Trophy finalist—Pavia and Vandy were hit with a controversial College Football Playoff snub that sent shockwaves through the sport. Diego talks candidly about the fire that keeps him going, tracing it back to his upbringing, the sacrifices made by his mom, and the constant motivation he draws from his brother. It’s a story of grit, doubt, resilience, and belief—proof that heart can take you where pedigree can’t. From JUCO fields to SEC stadiums, from being overlooked to becoming a household name, Diego Pavia’s rise is one of the most compelling stories in college football—and he shares it all right here on The Pivot. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button- we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“If you get on cruise control and let everything start festering, it’s gonna find a way to get out somehow…everybody makes mistakes, I made one and I apologized for it and moved on, and I’m better for it now.” Desmond Bane In one of the most authentic and real conversations we've had on The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit with Orlando Magic star Desmond Bane — a player whose journey is as powerful as his jump shot and deep roots that have grounded him since day one. With humility at his core in all he does, Bane's talents have often been overshadowed by his quiet demeanor but this off season his value was at the forefront, when Orlando traded for the young star solidifying his place as one of the top players in the NBA. Bane opens up about the early adversity that fueled his rise, the overlooked beginnings that pushed him to grind harder than the next guy, and the deep bond he built with Ja Morant in Memphis — a brotherhood formed through shared battles, growth, and the pressures of leading a young franchise. Now, after a blockbuster trade to Orlando, Bane talks candidly about embracing a new chapter and the responsibility of being a cornerstone for a young Magic squad. He opens up on how it took a little while trying to find his place in a new arena and gives context to the uncharacteristic game ejection early on, and shares what one thing clicked that has fueled his explosive run, including his back-to-back 37-point performances that set the tone for what’s becoming a breakout year in his new uniform and has his team 4-0 in the NBA Cup. Raised by his grandparents in the tight-knit community of Richmond, Indiana, Bane reflects on how small-town values, discipline, and love shaped the competitor and man he is today. It wasn't an easy path and the young star reveals his personal anxiety battles and how he redefined his path. He talks about the pain of loss and how his wife and kids helped him redefine purpose after grieving from so much change. And in a rare pivotal moment on the show, Desmond flips the conversation to Ryan, Channing and Fred, asking them how life is for them and how they have handled certain changes....truly a powerful part of the episode. Authentic, honest, and inspiring, this conversation captures Desmond Bane at a pivotal moment — reflecting on where he came from, honoring the people who raised him, and stepping boldly into the player he’s proving he can be. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Some of the best decisions I’ve made in my life have been rooted in faith where I couldn’t give a guarantee but I had faith and some of the worst decisions I’ve made in my life were rooted in fear.” Governor Wes Moore In this inspiring and wide-ranging conversation, Maryland Governor Wes Moore joins The Pivot Podcast to discuss leadership, purpose, and the personal journey that shaped his historic path to the governor’s office. Moore opens up to Ryan, Channing and Fred about his upbringing, his time in the military, and the pivotal moments that pushed him toward public service. He reflects on the challenges of leading a state during times of rapid change, the responsibilities of being Maryland’s first Black governor, and his commitment to expanding opportunity for all communities. Going in-depth, Moore shares the story behind writing his best-selling novel shaped how he views the world, based on the experience of 2 men with the same name who lived two different fates: one ended up doing life in prison while the other was a road scholar who became Governor. A journey rooted in faith not fear, Moore shares the key choices he made over his lifetime to give him the courage and strength to emphasize service over self. Throughout the episode, Moore’s trademark energy and clarity shine as he talks about balancing ambition with humility, the importance of mentorship, and what it means to create lasting impact. He shares his inspiring love story with wife Dawn, raising a family in the public eye while emphasizing the values that built their marriage, the support they’ve given each other through demanding careers, and the joy and purpose he finds in being a husband and father. And of course we talk football! From Maryland sports to the Baltimore Ravens to the AFC North to the true spirit and rivalry of the Army Navy game. Whether you’re interested in politics, personal growth, or stories of resilience, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at one of the country’s most dynamic political leaders. Pivot Family, tap in, like, hit subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The most dangerous person is one who truly believes in himself..." Darren Woodson 3x Super Bowl Champion It's Thanksgiving week and we have a lot to be grateful for Pivot Family and can't celebrate this holiday without talking about gratitude, family and of course football. And when we talk Thanksgiving football- we have to talk Dallas Cowboys. In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Cowboys star Darren Woodson joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a raw, unfiltered conversation that dives deep into the dynasty years in Dallas and the life lessons that shaped him on and off the field. Known as one of the toughest safeties to ever play the game, Woodson pulls back the curtain on what it was really like lining up alongside legends like Deion Sanders, Larry Allen, Michael Irvin. and Troy Aikman during one of the most iconic eras in NFL history. Woodson brings the locker room to life with stories of competing with Irvin’s relentless intensity, Aikman’s leadership standard, Deion’s unmatched swagger, and the brotherhood that held the team together through championship runs. He also shares his firsthand perspective on the infamous Leon Lett Thanksgiving game moment, revealing how it felt on the field, how the team reacted, and why that play became one of the most unforgettable—and teachable—moments in Cowboys history but also a defining moment of who Jimmy Johnson is not just as a coach but a man. He speaks candidly of Jerry Jones and shares insight that we don't see as we often criticize and publicize the way he has built one of the most profound sports organizations. Beyond the highlights and headlines, Woodson opens up about identity, transitions, fatherhood, and building a purpose-driven life after football. From the mental toughness learned on the gridiron to the vulnerability required in the next chapters of his life, this episode shows Darren Woodson as more than a three-time Super Bowl champion—he’s a leader still evolving. Authentic, emotional, and full of championship-level storytelling, this conversation is a must-listen for fans of the game and anyone striving to redefine themselves beyond their greatest successes. It’s a masterclass in resilience and reinvention from one of the league’s all-time great competitors. Have a safe and happy holiday season from our Pivot family to yours, please take a moment to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we are extremely grateful for your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I think you have to have a big ego in business and in sports but I use mine to want to protect myself from failure. Ego makes me not want to fail, it’s a motivator, my ego doesn’t want me to be laughed at or labeled a failure.” Zak Brown CEO of McLaren Racing The 2025 F1 season is winding down with three races left to go and McLaren has already won its 2nd Consecutive Constructors’ Championship with the chance for their drivers to finish 1st and 2nd. At the helm of all this success is CEO Zak Brown, a high school dropout from California that pursued his passion for motor sports and turned around McLaren Racing. On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, hosts Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit down with Zak Brown for an unfiltered conversation on leadership, risk-taking, and the relentless pursuit of speed—both on and off the track. Zak pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to transform one of the most iconic organizations in motorsport, from rebuilding McLaren’s Formula 1 program to cultivating a culture where innovation thrives, no blame is placed and a team first mantra. He talks candidly about navigating high-pressure decisions, the realities of competing at the sport’s highest level, and how he balances business strategy with his pure passion for racing. The conversation amps up as Zak talks about Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri’s fierce but healthy internal rivalry, explaining how their push to beat each other is exactly what drives the team closer to the front of the grid. With only a few races left, McLaren is eyeing a 1st, 2nd finish for the 2025 season, hoping to prove doubters wrong with a drama-free relationship between his two drivers that sit atop the sport- a no favoritism, no fighting approach. From the dynamics inside the garage to the strategic vision for the future, Zak gives rare insight into what it takes to manage two hungry, elite-level drivers chasing the same trophy. Zak dives into the inspiration behind his new book, sharing the lessons, setbacks, and bold decisions that shaped his journey from young racing enthusiast to the executive steering one of motorsport’s most iconic teams. He reveals the mindset shifts that fueled McLaren’s resurgence and why embracing risk is often the only real path forward. From bold driver signings to the future of electric racing and what winning means in today’s F1 landscape, this episode offers a rare look at the mindset of a global sports executive who isn’t afraid to bet big. Whether you're a Formula 1 fanatic, a business leader, or someone inspired by reinvention, Zak Brown’s journey shows exactly what it means to pivot with conviction. Pivot Family, don't forget too comment, like and hit subscribe! A special thanks to our partners at Jack Daniels for sponsoring this conversation and inviting us to be apart of their F1 partnership with McLaren, Las Vegas has been exciting and we wish the best of luck to Lando and Oscar down the finish! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I’m at peace with who I am. I am extremely comfortable in my own skin, I am extremely comfortable with the consequences of my life…I’m not chasing anything or trying to stay relevant, I’m just being myself.” Steve Smith Sr. In this powerful and unfiltered episode of The Pivot Podcast, former NFL star Steve Smith Sr. sits down with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a raw, emotional, and brutally honest conversation about the journey that shaped him and discovering peace from ultimate pain. Known for his relentless competitive fire and fearless attitude on the field, Steve opens up about the battles no one saw—his upbringing, the chips on his shoulder, and the emotional scars that fueled his greatness. From rising as an undersized third-round pick to becoming one of the most explosive receivers in NFL history, Steve breaks down the mentality that kept him fighting long after others would have quit. He discusses his struggles with anger, the importance of mental health, and how he learned to redefine manhood, fatherhood, and purpose beyond the game. The conversation covers accountability, discovering true self, the pressure of public life, and the consequences of actions off the field. Steve addresses the explosive social media allegations that surfaced in February 2025, when a man publicly accused him of having an affair with his wife. In a fury, personal messages and voice calls were released leading to swift and strenuous fallout. Through it all, Steve has largely remained silent in public — but he breaks that silence with the guys as he unpacks the emotional weight of the accusations, his reaction when confronted, embarrassment and how this controversy affected his family and ultimately his own marriage. From the highs of football royalty to the lows of fame and fallout, this conversation gives an inside look at a rock bottom moments to rebuilding from the ground up. Insightful, vulnerable, and at times hilarious, this episode showcases the side of Steve Smith Sr. fans rarely see. It’s a conversation about growth, accountability, and the power of owning your story. Whether you’re a football fan or simply someone navigating your own journey, Steve’s words will hit home. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you! Thanks to Chomps for sponsoring this convo: Go to⁠ https://chomps.com/PIVOT or use code PIVOT to get 15% off your Chomps order and free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Manufacturing joy is exhausting..."Ryan Clark November is Men's Health Awareness month and a good opportunity for us to check in with each other, check in with our loved ones and have tough conversations that generate awareness. Ryan, Channing and Fred discuss the recent passing of NFL player Marshawn Kneeland and how mental health doesn't discriminate from the rich, the successful or the ones who seem to have it all. And often, times are heavier, as people try to navigate everyday life with how they are supposed to be perceived vs how it really is. Each of the guys opens up and shares what they struggle with and the ways they try to seek help when going through tough times. We talk about the pressures and struggles of athletes in this time and get into the athlete owned platforms vs former athlete's who have platforms as the media landscape continues to change where more and more people respond directly as the source and the increasing need for people to respond to everything and anything. We have a little fun and get into it when a topic that Ryan and Fred find themselves on one side while Channing surprisingly is on the other side of it, making sense of a situation that RC and Fred can't even begin to comprehend- If you pass away, is it ok for your best friend to date or marry your spouse? We discuss! Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Money couldn’t motivate me because if you are led by money, your morals will be second….my morals come first and money is a bi-product of that. Fame is not fun.” KevOnStage We got a good one for you Pivot Family!! In this episode, Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with comedian, entrepreneur, and creator Kevin Fredericks, known as KevOnStage, for an honest, hilarious, and heartfelt conversation about comedy, family, and carving your own lane in the entertainment industry. Kev opens up about his journey from church stages to digital stardom, the ups and downs of building a brand rooted in authenticity, and what it really means to balance faith, creativity, and business in today’s world. He opens up about his relationship with his wife, Melissa, together since they were teens and still going strong almost 30 years later. Not always easy to navigate, Kev shares how he had to learn to be vulnerable and not keep emotions bundled up, especially losing his brother unexpectedly and how he was able to release his grief during dark times while finding peace in humor and faith. Turning the worst heartache of loss into laughter may be one way of coping with tragedy, but Kev prides himself on his roots and sense of community, never wavering on his beliefs to chase money. From viral sketches to building his own streaming platform, Kev shares the lessons he’s learned along the way—and the moments that tested his belief in himself and how walking away from a steady job to move across country changed his trajectory. This conversation is filled with a lot of laughs, real talk, and wisdom on how to keep pivoting with purpose and always find a way to the other side. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, subscribe and comment- we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Pivot, Ryan Clark sits down with Dr. William F. Tate IV — fresh off his transformative tenure as president at LSU — as he takes on a new challenge: leading Rutgers University. In this candid and inspiring conversation, Dr. Tate opens up about the journey from his groundbreaking role as LSU’s first African American president and first in SEC history to his vision for shaping the future of higher education in New Jersey. Ryan and President Tate get into the recent news around firing of LSU football coach, Brian Kelly (a hire Tate helped make) as well as long time Athletic Director Scott Woodward which led to the naming of Verge Ausberry as his predecessor to oversee Tiger's athletics. Tate openly shares what goes into the process, the success of all LSU sports and the importance of state universities working in harmony with state governors. They dive deep into leadership, legacy, and the lessons learned along the way — from navigating the pressures of big-time college athletics in the SEC to building a campus culture grounded in equity, excellence, and innovation. Ryan and Dr. Tate explore how faith, mentorship, and resilience have guided him, and what it means to “pivot” from success into significance. Whether you’re a fan of college sports, education, or powerful personal stories, this episode delivers wisdom, humor, and heart from one of higher education’s most dynamic leaders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“My biggest Pivot is when I set out to do something and people doubt me. I like to have my back against the wall, that’s something that makes me.” Norega What happens when a rap legend trades the stage for the mic, and then turns that mic into a cultural movement? Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down with N.O.R.E.—once frontman of the Queens duo Capone‑N‑Noreaga, still a platinum-selling solo act, and now one of hip-hop’s most trusted voices behind the mic. We get to know N.O.R.E behind the fame and see him as the family man who loves being a grandpa, building wealth with his wife, who wakes up at 4am to embark on training for the NYC marathon, the guy in the group chat who is always motivating you and the friend who reaches out just to check in. In this wide-ranging conversation, we cover his journey through music, from his early days in Queens, going from jail to how meeting NAS changed his entire perspective on life to being one of the originals to boast Reggaeton to shifting into podcasting, co-founding the hit show Drink Champs with DJ EFN to becoming constant presence in hip hop culture. He takes the guys behind-the-scenes of hip-hop’s biggest names, the compliment from 50 Cent that impacted his legacy to Kanye West naming his first child after him to the unexpected collaborations to the “you wouldn’t believe” stories to his regret with Michael Jordan and how he's continuing to shape culture in a forever changing society. N.O.R.E shares how he developed a "whatever it takes" mentality to stay relevant as he's seen the culture he's helped build evolve three times over—on the mic, in the studio, in media. This episode is filled with raw energy, unfiltered truths, sharp humor, and the kind of storytelling only someone who’s lived it can deliver. Whether you grew up riding the “Super Thug” beat or you’re discovering N.O.R.E.’s impact for the first time, this episode is a bridge—between then & now, between rap and media, between the grind and the growth and where we are headed next. Tune in for a conversation that reminds us- a pivot isn’t just a change—it’s a choice and a continuous movement of evolution. And when you’ve seen it all, it’s what you do next that counts. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe, we love hearing from you Pivot Family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"It's not the money, it's the rush you get from doing it." Channing Crowder Another fun-filled Friday episode with the fellas! With so much going on in the sports world right now, Ryan, Channing and Fred are back together breaking down all the top headlines and offering a different perspective on certain storylines that have everyone in a spin! From college football powerhouses becoming a laughing stock in the SEC to coaching changes across ball to the reality of sports betting to evolution of young athletes and their approach to the game and are we seeing the best athlete ever in sports right now with Shohei Otani in baseball? Sharing personal insight into the LSU and Florida football chaos, Ryan talks about his visit to Baton Rouge this week and his experience as a former Tiger while Fred and Channing chime in on the state of their alma mater Florida. The guys get into the future of sports at college level, what young people need from their leaders, how gambling is casting a cloud, money not being the root of what sports betting truly is and we even get into the play by play of a viral bout between our guy Cam Newton and an Alabama mascot!! Also chat about the world series and if Shohei Otani is the greatest athlete we are seeing right now and if not, who is? Of course we tap into some of the viral stories circulating social media from women having secret bank accounts to marriage advice to sick monkeys on the loose to our ongoing exercise and diet struggles as Fred is embracing his new healthy lifestyle, Ryan still fighting off snack demons and Channing thinks it's all crazy haha! Kick off your weekend with your favorite trio and don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like and comment- we love hearing from you Pivot Family! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“If you are questioning what I’m doing, then why not get it from the source?” When you've consistently done the work to be one of the best, it's not just the on court respect and praise that is earned, it's how your voice resonates beyond the game and no better example of this than Kevin Durant. In this powerful and candid conversation, NBA superstar Kevin Durant sits down with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor to open up like never before. From his early days in Prince George’s County to becoming one of the most dynamic scorers in NBA history, KD reflects on his journey through every team he’s played for — the Thunder, Warriors, Nets, and Suns — and what each chapter taught him about loyalty, leadership, and growth. He opens up about overcoming devastating injuries, finding balance off the court, and the evolution of his mindset through success, criticism, and reinvention. He doesn't shy away from the questions surrounding his choices, his direct demeanor on social media and describes how he sees his iconic career vs. how it's viewed by the world. Revealing the darkness he experienced from his injuries to rediscovering the light from his time away from the game, KD's love and appreciation for the camaraderie, the intense competition and the high demands of the sport. He shares how special Olympic moments have been, how winning a championship doesn't define his legacy and lets us in on his bond with players around the NBA, especially Anthony Edwards, who he sees a lot of himself in and compares their relationship to a similar one he shared with the late Kobe Bryant. Durant also talks deeply about family, sharing heartfelt stories about the impact of his mother, Wanda, and his relationship with his father, Wayne, and how thier love and lessons shaped the man he is today. The conversation turns to business and life beyond basketball — from his ventures in media and tech with Boardroom to his vision for empowering the next generation of athletes and creators. And of course, KD keeps it real about being a lifelong Washington Commanders fan — the highs, lows, and that unwavering DMV pride. It’s vintage Durant: honest, thoughtful, competitive, and always evolving. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button, like and comment- we love hearing from you Pivot family! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"This show should be a microcosm of life." Channing Crowder In case you didn’t know- We are saying it now...It's ok to have different opinions and it's ok to not always agree. It’s not about right and wrong, it’s about sharing perspectives, listening to others and bringing balance to conversation, it’s called life. Back together for a much needed 3 man Pivot- Ryan, Channing and Fred are addressing the latest social media storm, tackling latest topics, responding to backlash, going beyond sports headlines and have deeper discussions on importance of loyalty in a world of uncertainty and falsity. NBA returns, and so did Michael Jordan. The expectations of greatness from the greatest are set high, and we talk about why. When is enough, enough? The LeBron cycle continues, Stephen A apologizes, finally a side of Russell Wilson we’ve never seen before, is this the Russ Channing’s been waiting on? Growing pressure and demands on people and platforms is at an all-time high. Ryan gets into the responsibility that comes with having a voice and differentiating between our thoughts and opinions vs others who come on our show. The guys reflect on another NFL life lost too soon with Doug Martin passing, the mental and physical health struggles after the game is over, struggles of letting go and realization that life is shorter than we think. The AI craze and chatpgt running point on all our lives, how do we navigate the positives while sorting through the really bad that comes with this technology. Fred loves it, Ryan and Channing not so much. It’s creating a world of fake news and public figures to be alert and on edge, what’s the future hold? Don't forget to comment, like and hit the subscribe button and stay up to date on guests and stories- we love hearing from you Pivot family, the good and the bad! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Winning and losing is very close together, it’s really how quickly we can pivot in order to take advantage of the next opportunity that comes along.” Boris Kodjoe In this eye-opening episode of The Pivot Podcast, actor, producer, and entrepreneur Boris Kodjoe sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred to talk about his incredible journey—from growing up biracial in Germany to moving to the US to his transition from tennis to Wall Street to building a decades-long career in Hollywood, while balancing fame with family. Boris opens up about the values that shaped him, the lessons he's learned through marriage with actress Nicole Ari Parker, and how he continues to pivot with purpose in an ever-changing industry. From fatherhood and fitness to cultural identity and career longevity, this is a deep, honest, and inspiring conversation with a man who’s done the work—on and off the screen. Boris explores what it means to live with intention: how growing up in a Ghanaian‑German family influenced his choices, how therapy saved him in the darkest times, and how his strained relationship with is own father paved the path to his real-life dream role of being a father. Embarking on twenty years of marriage, Boris reveals what the secret to not just staying together but staying happy in unity, defying odds in an industry that challenges relationships and the simple rules him and his wife follow to make it all work. We dive into his latest professional work and ventures — including his directorial debut, his role in the film starring alongside his wife and gives the guys the scoop of what it was like filming Real Husbands of Hollywood and what's next for that crew. He also shares how his business and philanthropic interests, including work with his foundation and Full Circle Africa, continue to push him to expand his horizons. Whether you’re juggling career changes, nurturing relationships, or looking for insight into re‑invention, this episode offers an honest look at one man’s evolving definition of success — and how staying true to self makes all the difference. Thanks to our friends at Chomps for sponsoring this conversation- Go to https://chomps.com/PIVOT or use code PIVOT to get 15% off your Chomps order and free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I’m willing to say what most people aren’t. I’m willing to do what most people aren’t. I’m willing to be in the storm, if that’s what it takes.” Stephen A. Smith On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Stephen A. Smith invites the guys to his home for a deeply personal and an unfiltered conversation discussing everything from sports to culture to parenting to politics while under fire for recent public clashes with LeBron James, Alexis Ohanian, and Rep. Jasmine Crockett. Ryan acknowledges all the heat surrounding Stephen A. and one by one, we go through it all, leaving no stone unturned to the whys, the hows and what happens from here while delving into the man Stephen A truly is behind the mic. Known for his bold takes and unapologetic style, Stephen A. opens up about the backlash, his growing interest in politics, and how he handles being a lightning rod for controversy. He shares the background into Lebron dislike, revealing how he and one of the greatest to ever play the game. ended up in such disdain. He shares insight into the recent Alexis Ohanian situation, doubling down on his comments but offering explanation of what he truly means at the core of his words. Stephen A. also talks about the criticism and being called out for comments on Jasmine Crockett, saying it wasn't an attack on black women but taking action to be apart of the solution not the problem. He also gets personal—discussing fatherhood as his two daughters have come into public eye lately and how it influences his choices on and off the air. He goes deep into his roots with the love and respect of his mother, who's voice still guides him today and the lessons he learned the hard way from his father's choices that have all led to shaping the man he is today. And of course we had to ask him about running for President, not only is he serious but Stephen A. shares why he believes he would win the office of Presidency and his why that drives him to take on politics in this dangerous era of hate and controversy. Buckle up, because this conversation covers it all and nothing is off limits! A special thanks to our partners at Jack Daniels for sponsoring this conversation and inviting us to be apart of their F1 partnership with McLaren, check us out in Austin, TX this wknd! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I couldn’t keep my air, I couldn’t make any loud sound and I thought my career was over.” Joe Buck In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, legendary sportscaster Joe Buck takes the hot seat for a candid and wide-ranging conversation with Ryan, Channing, and Fred that's raw, insightful, and hilarious at times that goes far beyond the broadcast booth. From calling Super Bowls and World Series to growing up in the shadow of broadcasting icon Jack Buck, Joe opens up about the pressure, the privilege, and the personal journey behind the mic. He shares untold stories from the booth, the toll of living under public scrutiny, and how he's forged his own identity in the world of sports media. No topic is off-limits — from navigating criticism to growing up idolizing his dad to balancing his own career with fatherhood to revealing his biggest pivot, when he thought his livelihood was over. Now headlining Monday Night Football as lead play by play announcer, Joe opens up about his iconic partnership with Troy Aikman, reflecting on their chemistry, friendship, and how they’ve navigated decades together as one of the most recognized duos in sports media. But behind the mic is a man with even more to say about life off the field — Joe gets real about finding love again, marrying Michelle Beisner, raising twin boys as an older dad, and learning how to prioritize family after years of grinding in a high-pressure industry. He speaks with so much pride about his older daughters and admits he's not great at coaching youth sports for his kids. In a moment of reflection and honesty, Joe reveals how he almost lost the ability to do what he loves and how terrifying not being able to speak truly was but finding the courage to power through, This episode is a masterclass in vulnerability, humor, and resilience from a man who’s called the biggest moments in sports — and is now living some of the biggest moments of his life. Like, follow and leave us your comments, we love hearing from you Pivot family. Get a free trial at https://www.shipstation.com/pivot. Thanks to ShipStation for partnering with us on this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was lying to myself, the man in the mirror, I was lying to myself about where my heart was at, where my mind was at and that was hardest for me to deal with- if I could lie to myself of course I could lie to anybody.” -Odell Beckham Jr Pivot Family- yes! A long awaited conversation comes at the right time as star Odell Beckham Jr joins The Pivot opening up to Ryan, Channing and Fred in an emotional, deeply personal and authentic conversation as Odell navigates his recent life reflections, his football journey, life of fame and where he goes from here. Undeniably one of the most famous athletes in the world, OBJ takes the guys through his football career, the highs, the lows, the stardom, the misconceptions, the regrets, the emotions, Super Bowl win and the one thing he has to face now before getting back to the game he loves most. Announcing his return to the NFL, he speaks about what is next, the team he wants to join, the coach he is forever indebted to and the big plays that lifted him to a larger than life persona. Getting into the celebrity circles, dating famously, high-profile friends, traveling the world, the guys talk about it all and in powerful break through, Odell lets his guard down and owns up to falling short in certain areas as a man, father, son, friend and teammate. He shares how becoming a father saved his life and how being able to do right by his son is the leading factor in why he has decided to change in certain areas of life. On a new path to right the wrongs and capitalize on the time he has now, his one focus is getting back on the football field, doing what he loves and not leave the game until it's on his terms. This conversation is one of the most powerful and honest we've had on The Pivot and we are extremely grateful, that Odell's vulnerability and willingness to share not only enlightened us but also teaches valuable lessons about accountability, growth and second chances. Don't forget to comment, like and subscribe to let us know what you think of each episode and to find out the most up to date happenings with The Pivot. We appreciate you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Whatever you try to stamp out or silence, ends up making that thing more popular.” Josh Johnson On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, the hilarious and insightful Josh Johnson joins the guys to talk about his meteoric rise in the world of comedy. From viral stand-up clips and sold-out shows to his recent appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live and taking the reins as guest host on The Daily Show, Josh is proving that smart, vulnerable, and fearless comedy has a powerful place in today’s culture. In between all the laughs and funny banter, an unbelievable conversation happens with Ryan, Channing, Fred and Josh, as we understand more about his why. Known for blending sharp observations with deeply personal stories, Josh opens up about his journey from a small town in Louisiana to writing for The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon and becoming one of the most exciting voices in stand-up. He shares how he found his voice on stage, built his audience from the ground up through digital platforms, and turned moments of uncertainty into defining pivots in his career. In this raw and funny conversation, Josh talks about handling pressure in high-stakes moments, the creative grind behind his success, and why staying true to yourself is the ultimate flex. Whether you’re chasing a dream or reinventing yourself, Josh’s story is a masterclass in resilience, reinvention, and the power of comedy to connect and transform. Don’t miss this inspiring sit-down with one of comedy’s fastest-rising stars. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"When you stand on what matters, everything is going to fall into place for you." Anthony Ramos One's journey is never a straight line and often the path we think we are destined for is paved with lots of ups and downs that lead us to where we belong. In this pivotal conversation, Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with multi‑talented actor, singer, and storyteller Anthony Ramos, to explore the twists, turns, and lessons that have shaped his journey. From humble beginnings of the New York streets to Broadway stages, from major film sets to music studios, Anthony shares how he’s navigated shifting expectations, risk, and growth — all while staying rooted in identity and purpose. He shares the impact that starring in Hamilton had on his life, the wisdom from Busta Rhymes, the excitement of Spike Lee, being on set with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, his most transformative role as well as his most challenging and gives a sneak peek at some big projects in the works. It's a reflective and honest conversation on the little moments and decisions that led him to chase his dream down an unlikely path overcoming poverty, sharing how the streets taught him to act and maneuver the challenges of a rough upbringing and why pursuing a passion is often out of reach for people like him. He talks to Ryan about dealing with race and cultural barriers, staying authentically himself while balancing Hollywood pressures, choosing to be on the right side of his beliefs, betting on himself and taking risks to chase the big roles. He talks to Channing how he mended the relationship with his father before he passed and explains to Fred saying no is hard but being loyal to his roots matters the most, which he explains turning down the chance to work with J.Lo. The guys get into what “pivoting” really means when your life is already in motion as this episode goes beyond the highlight reel to dig into the grind, the doubts, and the quiet breakthroughs. Whether you’re in creative fields or facing your own pivot point, Anthony’s transparency and mindset offer resonance and inspiration. Tap into The Pivot Podcast on YouTube, hit the subscribe button, like, comment and let us know what you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Just being able to see you are still just a person because being a superstar is like a mask, it’s like a representative, when you get in jail and fighting for your life, you realize this shit is all an act, it’s all just a mask.” Young Thug In one of the most raw and captivating episodes of the year, Young Thug sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for an unfiltered conversation in which he opens up in like never before after beating Georgia's biggest case, enduring a trial that shook the hip-hop world and reflecting on the emotional toll of incarceration, how he navigated leaked phone calls, and the impact it all had on his family and mental health. From the moment the guys start talking, Thug is full of emotion, remorse and takes accountability for all that he's been through and put the people closest to him through- he longs for a fresh start but doesn't waiver on who he is, his manhood and doubles down on loyalty. Ryan asks Thug how things got to where they did and why he turned to the streets, despite his overwhelming success, dating back to his childhood and growing up in a house with his father as an example of family. Acknowledging the weight of the world on his shoulders, he reveals how he's been coping, exploring the range of emotions he's experiencing and understanding ways to deal with depression. He speaks candidly about his relationship with his girlfriend Mariah The Scientist and how they survived through the storm, expresses gratitude for fatherhood, and shares what kept him grounded when his future looked uncertain.In a moment of vulnerability, Thug reveals the people who didn't turn their back on him during the dark times, including Drake, Lil Baby and how Kanye and Kim Kardashian are the ones who gave him his biggest break. Thug gives fans a glimpse into his creative mindset, impact on culture, life codes, details behind his new music and how his experiences have transformed his sound and purpose. Going through emotional—now is Young Thug’s most pivotal moment, as he tunes out the negative noise, ignores the criticism and embraces the chance to start over. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I still haven’t got over that Super Bowl, I have yet to watch that game through because it’s that painful and I was that close to getting my ring. I hate the Super Bowl. I hate February.” Charles "Peanut" Tillman On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, former NFL star Charles "Peanut" Tillman joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for an unforgettable conversation that goes far beyond the football field. Known for his legendary "Peanut Punch" and Pro Bowl career with the Chicago Bears, Tillman opens up about the highs and lows of life in the NFL, the mental grind of competition, and what truly defined his time on the gridiron. He shares how it's still difficult to think about coming up short in two Super Bowls and how it pains him to this day to watch football in February. He takes the guys through his infamous career, some of his legendary plays and how he was the only player close to reaching a historic NFL milestone, of the 40/40 club with 44 forced fumbles and two picks short of 40 interceptions. But his story didn’t end with football. In a tremendous pivot of honor, Peanut talks about his decision to join the FBI after NFL retirement—a rare and inspiring path for a professional athlete. He shares what drove him to serve in a completely different arena, the challenges of the transition, and how discipline and purpose continue to shape his life. Growing up with his father in the military, he always had a passion to serve the country and joining the bureau was his way to make an impact. But recent changes and demands in protecting the homeland led Peanut to abruptly leave the FBI after eight years of service, which he opens up on and shares why for the first time. Peanut also reflects on the most important role he’s ever played: being a father. He gets deeply personal about his family, including the emotional journey with his daughter’s health, and how that experience changed his entire perspective on life, love, and prayer. Fred deems his storytelling as his favorite share in our Pivot history. The guys wrap up talking ball, sharing career moments and reminisce he plays we never live down! This is an episode about resilience, reinvention, and real priorities. Don't miss this raw and heartfelt sit-down with a true game-changer—on and off the field. New episodes every week — Comment, let us know what you think and don't forget to subscribe-- so you never miss a Pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"What's true, what's not true, the world is changing right in front of us." Fred Taylor In a world filled with uncertainty and questionable times, Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder and Fred Taylor come together for this 3-man conversation on what unites us all- humanity, sports and laughter. This week in sports, nothing is a guarantee — and that’s what makes ball great, you have to play the game to see how it shakes out. We break down the NFL's most debated questions heading into Week 3: Is Patrick Mahomes still on top, or is Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson closing the gap? Why did Shedeur Sanders not want to play in Baltimore? How is Tom Brady's dual role between owner and broadcaster affecting how he does is job and the advantages vs disadvantages of his presence. RC weighs in on player and non-player perspectives in media while Channing and Fred talk through the frenzy of it all from last couple weeks. And we get into ring talk, following Bud Crawford's victory vs Canelo and where does it rank the undefeated pound for pound champion with the greats, did this move him up on boxing's throne high enough to take Floyd Mayweather’s GOAT crown? We discuss. Pivot Bets are paid with college football rivalry wins in our family and the guys open up on sharing thoughts and feelings around all that's going on in the world today. Tap in to kick off your weekend with your favorite trio. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Heavy is the head that wears the crown, but you don't get to take the crown off." Steve Harvey Pivot Family, we have a special episode with this one for you, get ready to step inside the life of one of the most prolific figures of our generation. In this powerful and unfiltered conversation, comedy icon, TV mogul, and entrepreneur Steve Harvey sits down with Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder to talk about the pivotal moments that shaped his life — from homelessness to the Live at the Apollo to big screens of Hollywood. He shares the keys to not giving up, how becoming successful is one feat but staying there is true fulfillment. With his signature blend of wisdom and wit, Steve opens up about the grind behind his success, the faith that kept him grounded, and the mindset that separates the great from the average. But beyond the fame, Steve gets deeply personal — reflecting on his upbringing in Cleveland, the sacrifices his parents made, and how his father’s discipline and his mother’s prayers laid the foundation for everything he’s built. He speaks on how their influence still drives him today, especially in how he leads his own family and honors their legacy through purpose-driven work. In an emotional revelation, Steve shares with the guys the depth of his bond with his father and how the closeness is something that can never be replicated and how the loss still sticks with him today. Steve's ability to use humor to discuss tough topics and address some of the darker times in his life is a masterclass on legacy, resilience and betting on yourself. Steve unpacks his biggest pivots — including walking away from secure paychecks to follow his calling, navigating public criticism, and balancing fame with responsibility. He also drops gems on generational wealth, manhood, and what today’s young men need to hear about purpose, respect, and staying true to who they are. From generational wealth and black fatherhood to choosing purpose over popularity, Steve delivers game and vulnerability in equal measure. He talks about his own children, especially his daughters and how difficult it is to protect them while in the public eye but also where to draw the line between fame and privacy. This conversation goes far beyond words — it’s a blueprint for building a meaningful life. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I think it was important in my highest moment, to talk about my lowest moment because if it wasn’t for God’s work in my life, I wouldn’t be who I am now…. Going into that season, my mind was so cloudy and cluttered, I didn’t have the right focus and I knew I needed to get help.” -Jaylon Johnson In one of the most humbling and revealing episodes of The Pivot Podcast yet, Chicago Bears star cornerback Jaylon Johnson sits down with Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder for a conversation that dives far deeper than football. With a new contract as one of the highest paid cornerbacks in the league, Jaylon is revitalized by the Bears culture under leadership of new head coach Ben Johnson and believes his accountability to players is helping Quarterback Caleb Williams lead the team better with emphasis on competition and execution. He breaks down the tough wide receiver match ups he faces, who his style of play is modeled after and the games he has circled on the 2025 schedule. But beyond Xs and Os—Jaylon dives deep into his personal growth, fatherhood, giving back through his foundation, and what it really means to stay true to yourself in a league that tries to mold you. Known on the field as one of the NFL’s rising shutdown corners, Jaylon opens up about the battles he’s fought off the field — including his deeply personal struggle with porn addiction and the role his faith in God played in his journey toward healing and freedom. With honesty and vulnerability, he shares how he reached a breaking point, leaned into scripture, and found strength through surrender. Jaylon also talks about growing up in Fresno, the loss of his close friend and how it fueled his mission, becoming a father at a young age, and why his purpose now goes beyond interceptions and contracts. Jaylon’s life is guided by something bigger than football and this conversation is about redemption, resilience, and redefining manhood—as he opens up like never before, proving that true strength starts within. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices