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Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)

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Welcome! We engage in fascinating discussions with pre-eminent figures in the AI field. Our flagship show covers current affairs in AI, cognitive science, neuroscience and philosophy of mind with in-depth analysis. Our approach is unrivalled in terms of scope and rigour – we believe in intellectual diversity in AI, and we touch on all of the main ideas in the field with the hype surgically removed. MLST is run by Tim Scarfe, Ph.D (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ecsquizor/) and features regular appearances from MIT Doctor of Philosophy Keith Duggar (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-keith-duggar/).
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AI Is Learning at the Wrong Level of Abstraction — Matthieu Wyart

AI Is Learning at the Wrong Level of Abstraction — Matthieu Wyart

Aug 10, 2026·1:18:56

1:18:56

This episode is sponsored by Notion. Learn more about Notion's Developer Platform today at can deep networks discover abstractions that shallow models miss? Statistical physicist Matthieu Wyart joins Tim Scarfe to argue...

How Researchers Test AI for Hidden Goals — Apollo Research

How Researchers Test AI for Hidden Goals — Apollo Research

Jul 31, 2026·1:18:59

1:18:59

Can an AI do the right thing for the wrong reason? Tim Scarfe speaks with Apollo Research’s Alexander Meinke, Axel Højmark and Jérémy Scheurer about Measuring Reward-Seeking via Contrastive Belief Updates, their new...

Why a Nation Can't Outsource Its Frontier AI - Alistair Pullen (Cosine AI)

Why a Nation Can't Outsource Its Frontier AI - Alistair Pullen (Cosine AI)

Jul 13, 2026·55:56

55:56

This episode is sponsored by Notion. Learn more about Notion's Developer Platform today at Britain's most capable coding model can't be exported, and that ban is the whole reason Cosine set out to build one from...

The Benchmark With No Instructions — ARC-AGI-3 (winning team!)

The Benchmark With No Instructions — ARC-AGI-3 (winning team!)

Jul 1, 2026·1:24:34

1:24:34

Tim Scarfe travels to Zurich to sit down with the Tufa Labs ARC-AGI-3 team — founder Benjamin Crouzier, with Jeroen Cottaar, Dries Smit, Stefano Viel and Michal Tesnar — to work out what their leaderboard-topping system...

The Thermodynamic AI Computing Chip - Thomas Ahle

The Thermodynamic AI Computing Chip - Thomas Ahle

Jun 28, 2026·1:02:59

1:02:59

Thomas Ahle wants Normal Computing to be the Lovable for chip design: type your intent, and a swarm of agents carries it from design through optimisation, formalisation and verification to tape-out. To get there, his...

He won a Nobel here for AlphaFold. Then he left. - John Jumper

He won a Nobel here for AlphaFold. Then he left. - John Jumper

Jun 22, 2026·53:05

53:05

This episode is sponsored by Notion. Learn more about Notion's Developer Platform today at folding stalled biology for fifty years. A sequence of amino acids dictates a three-dimensional shape, but reading that shape...

When AI Decides You're a Threat — Brad Carson

When AI Decides You're a Threat — Brad Carson

May 31, 2026·1:20:51

1:20:51

Brad Carson was the Army's General Counsel, served two terms in Congress and was Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. He now heads Americans for Responsible Innovation, the AI-policy advocacy...

Intelligence is collective, not artificial — Prof. Michael I. Jordan (UC Berkeley / Inria)

Intelligence is collective, not artificial — Prof. Michael I. Jordan (UC Berkeley / Inria)

May 21, 2026·1:17:09

1:17:09

Michael I. Jordan, described by Science magazine as the most influential computer scientist alive, has never thought of himself as an AI researcher. In this conversation he explains why that distinction matters...

The AI Models Smart Enough to Know They're Cheating — Beth Barnes & David Rein [METR]

The AI Models Smart Enough to Know They're Cheating — Beth Barnes & David Rein [METR]

May 4, 2026·1:53:26

1:53:26

Beth Barnes and David Rein on the one graph that ate the AI timelines discourse, and why the two people who built it are the most careful about how you read it.**SPONSOR**Prolific - Quality data. From real people. For...

When AI Discovers The Next Transformer - Robert Lange (Sakana)

When AI Discovers The Next Transformer - Robert Lange (Sakana)

Mar 13, 2026·1:18:06

1:18:06

Robert Lange, founding researcher at Sakana AI, joins Tim to discuss *Shinka Evolve* — a framework that combines LLMs with evolutionary algorithms to do open-ended program search. The core claim: systems like...

"Vibe Coding is a Slot Machine" - Jeremy Howard

"Vibe Coding is a Slot Machine" - Jeremy Howard

Mar 3, 2026·1:26:39

1:26:39

Dive into the realities of AI-assisted coding, the origins of modern fine-tuning, and the cognitive science behind machine learning with fast.ai founder Jeremy Howard. In this episode, we unpack why AI might be turning...

Evolution "Doesn't Need" Mutation - Blaise Agüera y Arcas

Evolution "Doesn't Need" Mutation - Blaise Agüera y Arcas

Feb 16, 2026·55:48

55:48

What if life itself is just a really sophisticated computer program that wrote itself into existence? Blaise Agüera y Arcas presenting at ALife 2025 — the most technically detailed public walkthrough of the ideas in his...

VAEs Are Energy-Based Models? [Dr. Jeff Beck]

VAEs Are Energy-Based Models? [Dr. Jeff Beck]

Jan 25, 2026·46:56

46:56

What makes something truly *intelligent?* Is a rock an agent? Could a perfect simulation of your brain actually *be* you? In this fascinating conversation, Dr. Jeff Beck takes us on a journey through the philosophical...

Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

Jan 23, 2026·53:37

53:37

Professor Mazviita Chirimuuta joins us for a fascinating deep dive into the philosophy of neuroscience and what it really means to understand the mind.*What can neuroscience actually tell us about how the mind works?*...

Why Every Brain Metaphor in History Has Been Wrong [SPECIAL EDITION]

Why Every Brain Metaphor in History Has Been Wrong [SPECIAL EDITION]

Jan 23, 2026·42:04

42:04

What if everything we think we know about the brain is just a really good metaphor that we forgot was a metaphor?This episode takes you on a journey through the history of scientific simplification, from a young Karl...

Bayesian Brain, Scientific Method, and Models [Dr. Jeff Beck]

Bayesian Brain, Scientific Method, and Models [Dr. Jeff Beck]

Dec 31, 2025·1:16:37

1:16:37

Dr. Jeff Beck, mathematician turned computational neuroscientist, joins us for a fascinating deep dive into why the future of AI might look less like ChatGPT and more like your own brain. **SPONSOR MESSAGES START**...

Your Brain is Running a Simulation Right Now [Max Bennett]

Your Brain is Running a Simulation Right Now [Max Bennett]

Dec 30, 2025·3:17:09

3:17:09

Tim sits down with Max Bennett to explore how our brains evolved over 600 million years—and what that means for understanding both human intelligence and AI. Max isn't a neuroscientist by training. He's a tech...

The 3 Laws of Knowledge [César Hidalgo]

The 3 Laws of Knowledge [César Hidalgo]

Dec 27, 2025·1:37:05

1:37:05

César Hidalgo has spent years trying to answer a deceptively simple question: What is knowledge, and why is it so hard to move around? We all have this intuition that knowledge is just... information. Write it down in a...

"I Desperately Want To Live In The Matrix" - Dr. Mike Israetel

"I Desperately Want To Live In The Matrix" - Dr. Mike Israetel

Dec 24, 2025·2:55:46

2:55:46

This is a lively, no-holds-barred debate about whether AI can truly be intelligent, conscious, or understand anything at all — and what happens when (or if) machines become smarter than us. Dr. Mike Israetel is a sports...

Making deep learning perform real algorithms with Category Theory (Andrew Dudzik, Petar Velichkovich, Taco Cohen, Bruno Gavranović, Paul Lessard)

Making deep learning perform real algorithms with Category Theory (Andrew Dudzik, Petar Velichkovich, Taco Cohen, Bruno Gavranović, Paul Lessard)

Dec 22, 2025·43:57

43:57

We often think of Large Language Models (LLMs) as all-knowing, but as the team reveals, they still struggle with the logic of a second-grader. Why can’t ChatGPT reliably add large numbers? Why does it "hallucinate" the...

Are AI Benchmarks Telling The Full Story? [SPONSORED] (Andrew Gordon and Nora Petrova - Prolific)

Are AI Benchmarks Telling The Full Story? [SPONSORED] (Andrew Gordon and Nora Petrova - Prolific)

Dec 20, 2025·16:04

16:04

Is a car that wins a Formula 1 race the best choice for your morning commute? Probably not. In this sponsored deep dive with Prolific, we explore why the same logic applies to Artificial Intelligence. While models are...

The Mathematical Foundations of Intelligence [Professor Yi Ma]

The Mathematical Foundations of Intelligence [Professor Yi Ma]

Dec 13, 2025·1:39:14

1:39:14

What if everything we think we know about AI understanding is wrong? Is compression the key to intelligence? Or is there something more—a leap from memorization to true abstraction? In this fascinating conversation, we...

Pedro Domingos: Tensor Logic Unifies AI Paradigms

Pedro Domingos: Tensor Logic Unifies AI Paradigms

Dec 7, 2025·

Pedro Domingos, author of the bestselling book "The Master Algorithm," introduces his latest work: Tensor Logic - a new programming language he believes could become the fundamental language for artificial intelligence...

He Co-Invented the Transformer. Now: Continuous Thought Machines - Llion Jones and Luke Darlow [Sakana AI]

He Co-Invented the Transformer. Now: Continuous Thought Machines - Llion Jones and Luke Darlow [Sakana AI]

Nov 23, 2025·

The Transformer architecture (which powers ChatGPT and nearly all modern AI) might be trapping the industry in a localized rut, preventing us from finding true intelligent reasoning, according to the person who...

Why Humans Are Still Powering AI [Sponsored]

Why Humans Are Still Powering AI [Sponsored]

Nov 2, 2025·

Ever wonder where AI models actually get their "intelligence"? We reveal the dirty secret of Silicon Valley: behind every impressive AI system are thousands of real humans providing crucial data, feedback, and...

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