Disorder

Disorder

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To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit https://disorder.supportingcast.fm/ Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s most powerful states are actively making those crises worse. The result? We’re living through a novel historical era: The Global Enduring Disorder.  The Disorder podcast, in partnership with RUSI, teases out the key principles that connect seemingly disparate challenges: from Climate Change to Tax Havens, to Unregulated Cyberspace, to the Wars in Ukraine, Syria, and Libya. Jason Pack, Associate Fellow at RUSI, and returning cohosts, discuss with world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, the fundamental principles lurking behind today’s global issues.  At the conclusion of each episode, they will proposing inventive, win-win solutions to the globe’s most pressing challenges aka, ‘Ordering the Disorder’.  Website: https://disordershow.com/
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Ep 158. Rising Islamic militancy in Bangladesh?

Ep 158. Rising Islamic militancy in Bangladesh?

Dec 15, 2025·

Are we witnessing rising Islamic militancy in Bangladesh? Or could it become a model for other developing countries? A nationwide celebration is underway. It’s Victory Day for Bangladesh’s 176 million people. Fifty-four...

Ep 157. Dalia Dassa Kaye: Will Iran and the US always be enemies?

Ep 157. Dalia Dassa Kaye: Will Iran and the US always be enemies?

Dec 8, 2025·

Will the US and Iran always be at odds? What is the history of their feud? Weren’t the countries allies under the Shah? And today, what’s the chance that negotiations will resume after the 12 Day War earlier this year?...

Ep 156. Philip Coggan--The Economic Consequences of Mr Trump; And will the UK restore budgetary order?

Ep 156. Philip Coggan--The Economic Consequences of Mr Trump; And will the UK restore budgetary order?

Dec 1, 2025·

With the long-awaited UK budget finally revealed (in a leaked form a few hours early), will this finally restore a semblance of financial Order to the UK? And with Trump’s haphazard tariffs ongoing and constantly...

Ep 155. Can Canada become the world’s mega orderers? With Marci Surkes

Ep 155. Can Canada become the world’s mega orderers? With Marci Surkes

Nov 24, 2025·

What aboot Canada? Is Carney still popular? Has he pulled a Starmer of coming in with big fanfare and then flopping? Fortunately not! And with Mark Carney recently narrowly passing a budget, can Canada now play the role...

Ep 154. Is it in Israel’s interest to recognize Palestinian Statehood? A conversation with former Israeli Ambassador Ilan Baruch

Ep 154. Is it in Israel’s interest to recognize Palestinian Statehood? A conversation with former Israeli Ambassador Ilan Baruch

Nov 19, 2025·

In this bonus episode, Jane and Jason are joined by former Israeli Ambassador to South Africa, Ilan Baruch, to present a unique perspective on a possible route to peace between Israel and Palestine. Amb. Baruch is a...

Ep 153. Is wealth inequality the greatest global danger? U-turns on a U-Turn: Reeve’s Budget, and why is Trump suing the BBC?

Ep 153. Is wealth inequality the greatest global danger? U-turns on a U-Turn: Reeve’s Budget, and why is Trump suing the BBC?

Nov 17, 2025·

The US president has said he plans to sue the BBC, even after getting an apology for a misleading Panorama edit of his 6 January speech. But how could he do that national broadcaster of America’s greatest ally? And will...

Ep 152. How do we still get people to believe in Democracy?

Ep 152. How do we still get people to believe in Democracy?

Nov 12, 2025·

For a special crossover episode with the Democracy Works podcast, Jenna Spinelle talks with Jason. They discuss the state of democracy around the world and why making America's government more like a European country...

Ep151. Jason loses his city: the disordering pitfalls of Zohran Mamdani’s victory in NYC

Ep151. Jason loses his city: the disordering pitfalls of Zohran Mamdani’s victory in NYC

Nov 10, 2025·

Central Park West Apartments for all! Freeze the Rent! Free Palestine! Jason goes on a screed that is sure to bemuse, offend, and enlighten. He showcases the myriad ways in which Mamdani’s leftwing populism is not so...

Ep 150. Why can’t the US justice system hold the powerful to account?

Ep 150. Why can’t the US justice system hold the powerful to account?

Nov 3, 2025·

To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit In institutional design, the US justice system is more independent than its...

Ep 149. Is an alliance with Israel geostrategically useful to the US? Plus sanctions on Russia and the UN’s Role

Ep 149. Is an alliance with Israel geostrategically useful to the US? Plus sanctions on Russia and the UN’s Role

Oct 27, 2025·

To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content (like this week’s special bonus about the UN’s and Jason’s Birthday) and exclusive access to live events, visit In this...

Ep 148. Is there a path to lasting peace in Palestine and Israel?

Ep 148. Is there a path to lasting peace in Palestine and Israel?

Oct 20, 2025·

To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit As Trump parades across the Middle East collecting adulation for his ‘eternal...

Ep 147. From Gaza ceasefire and Hostage release and to Post-War State Building? With Sam Bahour (Commemorating October 7th Part 2)

Ep 147. From Gaza ceasefire and Hostage release and to Post-War State Building? With Sam Bahour (Commemorating October 7th Part 2)

Oct 13, 2025·

To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit To discuss from a Palestinian perspective the fallout of October 7th, two years...

Ep 146. Commemorating October 7th Part 1: Phil Rosenberg, President of the Board of Deputies of British Jews

Ep 146. Commemorating October 7th Part 1: Phil Rosenberg, President of the Board of Deputies of British Jews

Oct 6, 2025·

To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit This timely episode was recorded before the horrors of the Manchester Yom...

Ep 145. How has Trump changed the UN?

Ep 145. How has Trump changed the UN?

Oct 1, 2025·

To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit When Trump stormed into UNGA last week, complained about escalators and tele...

Ep 144. Is Free Speech Dead in America (plus announcing Mega Orderers Club)?

Ep 144. Is Free Speech Dead in America (plus announcing Mega Orderers Club)?

Sep 29, 2025·

We here at Disorder are thrilled to announce a subscription Club with lots of perks for our fans. Given these dire times and our inability to break even we really need your support. To join our Mega Orderers Club, and...

Ep 143. Can The Politics Guys Help us Order the Disorder?

Ep 143. Can The Politics Guys Help us Order the Disorder?

Sep 24, 2025·

For a special bonus episode, we give you Jason’s conversation with Michael Baranowski, of The Politics Guys podcast. They discuss: Jason’s concept of global enduring disorder, the implications of this disorder for...

Ep 142. Why are stock markets not crashing? With the FT’s Katie Martin

Ep 142. Why are stock markets not crashing? With the FT’s Katie Martin

Sep 22, 2025·

Investors are frogs in a Trumpian pot. As he turns the water up will they jump or boil? Trump has chaotically imposed tariffs on the global economy-- replete with arbitrary numbers, 90-day pauses, and then different...

Ep 141. Trump Visits UK, Starmer on verge of Recognising Palestinian Statehood

Ep 141. Trump Visits UK, Starmer on verge of Recognising Palestinian Statehood

Sep 15, 2025·

As Trump touches down in the UK, Elon Musk provokes a riot in Westminister and Kier Starmer’s government is set to recognise Palestinian Statehood. Last week, Israel attacked Hamas leaders in Qatar. Did they hit them?...

Ep 140. Could Britain Lead on Migration, Rule of Law, and Public Health?

Ep 140. Could Britain Lead on Migration, Rule of Law, and Public Health?

Sep 8, 2025·

Britain has a new Foreign Secretary, Yvette Cooper, and this week’s episode dives into the UK’s foreign policy and how it could in theory transcend some of the country’s current political divides. To dig into this...

Ep 139. Bangladesh and The Great Game for South Asia

Ep 139. Bangladesh and The Great Game for South Asia

Sep 1, 2025·

With the West’s ability to promote democratic transitions essentially dead, a struggle for influence is unfolding inside Bangladesh. Its traditional alliance with India is being replaced by a scramble for economic...

Ep 138. Are we prepared for global disasters?

Ep 138. Are we prepared for global disasters?

Aug 25, 2025·

In early August, one of the most powerful earthquakes ever recorded struck a sparsely populated region in Russia’s far east. It triggered a tsunami that started crossing the ocean, heading towards the coastlines of...

Ep 137. To Recognise a Palestinian State

Ep 137. To Recognise a Palestinian State

Aug 18, 2025·

It is our favourite time of the month. Jane and Jason take on the mega orderering listeners’ questions – focussing mostly on the Middle East, the Trump-Putin summit, and any rays of ordering hope that might be on the...

Ep 136. Trump's High Summer of Disorder: Can Big Global Government actually regulate AI?

Ep 136. Trump's High Summer of Disorder: Can Big Global Government actually regulate AI?

Aug 13, 2025·

Like it or not, Trump and his surreal version of a libertarian patrimonial America is reshaping the world. At least in what the FT’s Janan Ganesh dubs “the high summer of Donald Trump”. I teamed up with Andrew Keen of...

Ep 135. Are Drones replacing Air Forces; and is NATO ready for it?

Ep 135. Are Drones replacing Air Forces; and is NATO ready for it?

Aug 11, 2025·

As Ukraine and Russia master new forms of drone warfare, are NATO and Europe being left behind? Is the West willfully clinging to older 20th century ways of equipping and preparing for war? In this episode, Arthur Snell...

Ep 134. Why Spying is vital in our age of Disorder

Ep 134. Why Spying is vital in our age of Disorder

Aug 4, 2025·

For as long as there’s been wars and diplomacy, there have been spies. Some call it the world’s second oldest profession. But from their peak during the Cold War until now have the West’s spying capabilities declined?...

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