Welcome to Episode 35 of the Tesla to Mars podcast — the second installment of our Robotaxi Countdown series. We’re thrilled to be joined by Phil Beisel, former Apple and Rivian engineer, and one of the most insightful minds covering Tesla’s FSD and Optimus initiatives. In this deep-dive conversation, Phil shares his behind-the-scenes experience at Rivian, unpacks Tesla’s AI strategy, and helps us understand how robotaxis and Optimus are poised to reshape transportation and labor. If you’re into Tesla, AI, or the future of cities, this one is a must-listen.
