📮 Want tools for the art of living? Sign up here: https://perennial.substack.com/subscribe In this episode of In Search of Wisdom , my guest is Patrick Boland , author of The Contemplative Leader . Patrick is an Executive Coach, Leadership Consultant, and Psychotherapist. Our conversation focuses on the meaning of contemplation and how we might lead a more contemplative life. Key Takeaways: How to ‘think’ about contemplation. What it means to change ourselves internally. The difference between a goal and desire. The keys to living a contemplative life. --- 🖇️ Stay Connected: Twitter: https://twitter.com/PerennialPods Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/perennialmeditations/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PerennialPods --- 🦉 Additional Resources Related to the Podcast: Explore the Perennial Meditations archive: https://perennial.substack.com/archive Listen to more podcasts: https://www.perennialleader.com/podcasts