Summary In this conversation, Matthew and Scott explore various themes related to networking, usability, user experience, and the importance of understanding user needs. They discuss the Jobs To Be Done methodology, the challenges faced by consultants, and the role of AI in research. The conversation emphasizes the need for effective measurement of success over mere satisfaction and reflects on career aspirations and the evolving landscape of user experience research. Bio Scott Kincaid is a product research leader with over 25 years of experience evangelizing user-centered design and building cohesive research, design, and agile environments. He has cultivated high-performing research teams and established himself as a sought-after speaker, presenting at Dreamforce for six consecutive years and at IRCE (Internet Retail Conference & Exhibition) for five years. With a quarter-century of user research consulting experience spanning nearly every B2B and B2C vertical industry, Scott brings deep expertise to complex product challenges. His hands-on research experience includes facilitating over 10,000 hours of one-on-one sessions and focus groups across North America, Europe, Asia, and Australia. Takeaways Networking can lead to unexpected connections and insights. Usability is not just about ease; it's about efficiency and effectiveness. Industry knowledge is valuable, but understanding user needs is paramount. Jobs To Be Done helps clarify what users need from a product. Competitive analysis should focus on understanding user experiences, not just surface-level features. Consultants often face challenges in aligning client expectations with research outcomes. Measuring success is often more insightful than measuring satisfaction. AI can help identify and prioritize user needs effectively. Understanding intent is crucial for effective user research. Frameworks should serve the purpose of understanding user needs, not complicate the process. Chapters 00:00 Cold JTBD Open 04:14 The Evolution of User Experience 07:03 Understanding User Needs and Expectations 12:25 Competitive Analysis in UX 15:10 Success vs. Satisfaction in User Experience 18:07 The Role of Research in Product Development 38:16 The Complexity of Frameworks in UX Research 44:15 Consulting in the Modern Era 46:39 7 +/- 2 Questions 46:59 What's something that you did recently that went really well? 49:55 Why can't we have nice things? 50:59 What's the biggest earthquake you've ever been in? 52:05 What's the best road trip you've ever taken? 53:29 What do you hope to not be carrying anymore? Keywords networking, usability, user experience, Jobs To Be Done, consulting, market research, AI, success measurement, satisfaction, career reflections