Unmasking China's Organ Harvesting | Dr. Shawn Baker & Jan Jekielek - Dr. Shawn Baker Podcast

Jan Jekielek is senior editor with The Epoch Times, host of the show "American Thought Leaders" and past co-host of "FALLOUT" with Dr. Robert Malone and "Kash's Corner" with now-FBI Director Kash Patel.

Jan specializes in long-form discussions that tackle the grand narratives of our time. Over the last five years, he has interviewed over a thousand thought leaders on camera, including heads of state, multiple U.S. cabinet secretaries and agency heads, and congressional members.

His upcoming book is titled, "Killed to Order: China's Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America's Biggest Adversary," coming in March 2026.

He's also an award-winning documentary filmmaker, producing "DeSantis: Florida vs. Lockdowns," "The Unseen Crisis: Vaccine Stories You Were Never Told," and the "optimistic" Holocaust documentary "Finding Manny."

Socials:

Instagram: @jan.jekielek X: @JanJekielek YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AmericanThoughtLeaders Website: http://epochtv.com/atl

Timestamps:

00:00 Trailer 00:24 Introduction 07:32 Exposing illegal organ trade growth 11:50 Forced organ harvesting in China 21:23 Access for China's elite only 26:32 Organ procurement ethical concerns 33:11 Organ trafficking concerns in poor countries 34:45 Exploitation in prison systems 44:59 Jealousy driving leader's actions 50:44 Falun gong practitioners' experiences 53:39 Realizing the harsh reality 59:13 Discussing euthanasia and organ transplants 01:02:01 Where to find the book

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