Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast. Today’s episode dives into the details of distribution and how to build a high-performing global business to serve the wealth channel across brands and strategies. John Sweeney is the Chief Executive Officer of Brookfield Oaktree Wealth Solutions , a business unit that was created to harmonize the distribution efforts across the Brookfield and Oaktree brands. He previously served as Head of US Business Development and Sales for Brookfield Oaktree Wealth Solutions and was a Managing Director and Head of the Americas intermediary business at Oaktree Capital. He also served as president of Oaktree Funds from 2014-2018. Before joining the alternative asset manager side of the business, John had extensive experience working in alternative investments roles at private banks. Before joining Oaktree in 2013, he was a Managing Director and Head of Product Management and Development for the alternative investments business at Morgan Stanley. Prior to that, he was the Head of Product Management in the US for the alternative investments business of the Citi Private Bank. John and I had a fascinating and informative discussion. We covered: How John is building Brookfield Oaktree’s wealth business. The benefits of scale. Wisdom from John’s Oaktree colleague Howard Marks. How advisor education is critical to the adoption of private markets. Thanks John for coming on the show to share your wisdom and views on private markets and working with the wealth channel. Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts. A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions , a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at
[email protected] . We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream. Show Notes 00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions 01:55 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream 02:06 Introduction to John Sweeney 03:58 John's Early Career at Morgan Stanley 04:34 Evolution of Alternative Investments 05:15 Impact of Technology on Private Markets 06:42 Service and Distribution Strategy 09:33 Building Brookfield Oaktree's Wealth Business 11:16 Brookfield and Oaktree Acquisition 12:42 Creating Investment Solutions 14:07 Understanding the Wealth Channel 15:05 Global Distribution Strategy 17:52 Importance of Brand and Service 19:06 Effective Client Engagement 21:09 Advisors vs. Institutional Investors 22:27 Evergreen Funds and Distribution 25:09 Balancing Content and Engagement 27:15 Investment Philosophy and Market Context 29:36 Risk Control and Consistency 30:53 Generational Wealth Transfer 31:40 Educating the Next Generation of Investors 32:04 Long-Term Track Record and Conclusion 32:18 Delivering Returns and Long-Term Success 32:31 Accessing Evergreen Funds 32:45 Compounding Returns Over Time 32:52 Thinking in Decades 32:57 Private Credit and Economic Cycles 33:16 Experience and Results 33:41 Brand and Experience in Private Markets 34:55 Marketing and History 35:12 Brookfield Real Estate Introduction 35:34 Oaktree's Credit Roots 35:55 Integrating Two Brands 36:15 Building Solutions and Partnerships 39:03 Global Presence and Scale 39:13 Navigating Wealth Channel Conversations 40:34 Competing in Various Deal Sizes 41:16 Exploring Secondary Markets 41:56 Private Ca
