In today's episode, we continue our Cannes Lions series as Alan and D a vid Sandstrom, ch ief marketing officer at Klarna, discuss how embracing change, leveraging artificial intelligence (AI), and balancing data-driven efficiency with creativity are shaping the future of marketing and brand-building. Klarna is a financial technology company that is well-known for its "buy now, pay later" (BNPL) options. David highlights the macroeconomic trends that he believes are contributing to the continuing growth of BNPL , while also shar ing Klarna 's efforts to diversify their offerings with digital banking and mobile phone plans. Innovation and experimentation are core to Klarna's culture, and can be seen in initiatives like their interactive customer hotline featuring an AI avatar of their chief executive officer . David also outlines how he and his team encourage employees to use AI internally by actively measuring AI usage , using it as a team on a daily basis , and challenging team members to complete task s that would be impossible without it . However, d espite Klarna embracing AI usage and adopting new technologies , David emphasizes the essential role of human creativity in creating resona nt messaging . He also discusses his interest in "anti-trends " , like long -form content, as open spaces to build brands and tell stories. In this episode, you'll learn: How building an AI-driven culture can boost innovation and efficiency Why combining technology with creativity can be key to brand success How expanding and educating beyond your core offering can drive growth Key quotes: " We're not doing anything new based on AI. We're only doing the things we used to do, but way more efficiently , way faster, at a way lower cost. " - David Sandstrom, chief marketing officer at Klarna " I think our investment in AI culture has been more important than our investment in AI infrastructure " - David Sandstrom, chief marketing officer at Klarna Key highlights: [00: 3 0] Introduction [0 1 :0 5 ] What's new for Klarna [0 1 : 5 0] David's career path [03:25] The key to David's CMO longevity [04:00] Growth of BNPL [05:20] Extending beyond BNPL [06:15] Moving to digital banking [0 8:00 ] Creating a culture t o embrace AI [ 11 : 30 ] The impact of AI on the creative process [13:40] An experience that defines you: Being born to a juxtaposing pair [14:25] Advice to your younger self: Enjoy the ride [14:55] A topic marketers need to learn more about: How to build a brand today [16:00] Subcultures and trends to follow: Anti-trends and long-form [17:30] Largest threat to marketers today: Becoming too data -driven Resources mentioned: Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity Klarna's AI chief executive officer report Follow the podcast: Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Amazon Music Listen on Audible Listen on iHeart Radio Listen on Spotify Connect with David Sandstrom and Klarna : David Sandstrom on X David Sandstrom on LinkedIn Klarna on X Klarna on LinkedIn Klarna on Instagram Connect with Alan Hart and Deloitte Digital: Alan Hart on X Alan Hart on LinkedIn Deloitte Digital on LinkedIn Deloitte Digital on Instagram Deloitte Digital on YouTube Deloitte Digital on Threads
