Date: May 6, 2025 Guest Skeptic: Actor, producer and director Noah Wyle. Many of us know him as Dr. John Carter from ER, the show that arguably influenced an entire generation of EM physicians. Since that groundbreaking show, he has been busy with multiple movie roles (Pirates of Silicon Valley, Donnie Darko, White Oleander, Shot, and At the Gate) and TV series (The Librarian, Falling Skies, The Red Line and Leverage: Redemption). Noah is back in scrubs again, playing Dr. Robinavitch in The Pitt, a new medical drama that captures one chaotic, fifteen-hour emergency department shift. There will be no spoilers for the one or two SGEM listeners who haven’t streamed The Pitt. A big shout-out to Dr. Mel Herbert, creator of EMRap, for setting up this interview. Mel has been on the SGEM talking about the extraordinary power of being average. Mel is also a medical consultant for The Pitt. Let’s set the scene of how The Pitt starts: Noah is shown walking to work for a day shift, hoodie on, earbuds in, scruffy beard, backpack, Yeti and cargo pants. He nailed the look of a seasoned EM doctor. The hoodie was from a brewery called Beers of the Burgh, and they are selling the hoodie Noah wears for the entire season. Noah's portrayal as Dr. Robby is so believable that I was instantly willing to suspend disbelief and accept him as a legit EM attending. As an EM physician who has been practicing for nearly 30 years, I felt seen. We’ve done previous SGEM Xtra episodes on how pop culture helps us reflect on our practice of EM—Star Trek, Top Gun, Batman, and even Ted Lasso. But ER was perhaps the most formative show for this EM doctor. I started residency in 1995, and identify with the character, Dr. Robby, in The Pitt. This is especially true in today’s healthcare environment. FIVE NERDY QUESTIONS for Noah Wyle Listen to the SGEM Podcast to hear Noah answer the five nerdy questions. 1. Three Decades: It’s been 30 years since ER first aired in 1994. What’s changed in emergency medicine besides the disappearance of white lab coats and ties and the introduction of designer scrubs (Figs) or, in your case, a hoodie from a beer company? 2. Being A Doctor Again: What was the easiest and hardest part about returning to a role as an emergency physician? For me, it’s the incorporation of ultrasound and a drug names that keeps getting harder to pronounce. What was the easiest and hardest part for you stepping into the role of an EM attending decades later? Teamwork is essential in EM. We talk a lot about being on “Team Patient.” The cast, crew, set designers, writers, directors, and producers of The Pitt captured that flow state we strive for on shift. How did you and your team get into the flow? 3. Feedback: The show has resonated widely; dare I say cultural phenomenon. How has the response been from different groups from your perspective: healthcare workers (doctors, nurses, residents, etc), administrators, and patients? I’m watching it with my wife (Barb) while encouraging my friends and colleagues to do the same. It’s the most accurate window into my life as an attending EM physician that I’ve ever seen. 4. Evidence-Based Medicine: I teach EBM, which combines the best available evidence with clinical judgment while asking patient about their values and preferences. This means not following GUIDElines as if they were GODlines. The show reflects EBM beautifully. I hear you had an EM bootcamp to get the cast up to speed on terminology, procedures and other things. What was that like? I also hear you shadowed some real EM docs on shift. Any specific memories from that experience that informed your acting and the show? 5. Tough Topics: The show doesn’t shy away from tough topics like abortion, healthcare worker violence, vaccine hesitancy, miscarriage, organ donation, burnout, mass shootings, substance use among staff, moral injury, and so much more. Why was it important to tackle these head-on? Was there a deliberate choice to “show the hard stuff” and lean into the controversial aspects of EM? Season#2 of The Pitt has been given the green light, with production starting in June. It will be set during a July 4th holiday weekend shift. The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) has also announced that Noah will be their special guest at the Scientific Assembly in September in Salt Lake City. The SGEM will return next episode with a structured critical appraisal of a recent publication. We're using the power of social media to cut the Knowledge Translation window from over ten years to less than one. Remember to be skeptical of anything you learn, even if you heard it on the Skeptics’ Guide to Emergency Medicine.
