What happens when ADHD doesn’t look the way people expect it to, and what’s the cost when it gets missed? This week, Sam and Katie are joined by psychotherapist, activist and founder of ADHD Babes, Vivienne Isebor, to explore how ADHD shows up differently in Black women and non-binary people, and why that matters. Vivienne shares her own late diagnosis story, the cultural barriers that still exist around recognising ADHD, and how building a community for people like her became life-saving. Together, they unpack the damage caused by stereotypes, the inherited silence around neurodivergence, and the importance of joy, rest and connection in healing. Vivienne talks candidly about the emotional toll of being misread, the power of peer support, and why she’s hopeful about the future- even while pushing for systemic change. Whether you’re navigating your own diagnosis or just want to understand what ADHD looks like beyond the clichés, this conversation is packed with insight, care and collective wisdom. Find out more about ADHD Babes here New episodes of You're Wrong About ADHD are available every Wednesday and Friday. Got a question or story for the team? Send it to
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