Jordan and Nate spend most of this episode diving into RFK Jr.'s recent podcast dive into psychedelics, from his RNC speech on corporate regulatory capture to clips on ibogaine's ability to resolve opioid withdrawal and psilocybin's potential as fast acting depression treatment. Along the way they swap their own microdosing experiences and get refreshingly honest about which ceremonies actually worked for them (spoiler: not all of them). From there they pivot to healthcare fraud, breaking down Dr. Oz's staggering figures on stolen taxpayer dollars and a memorable rant about the "legal fraud" hiding in plain sight, like the true cost of a hospital saline bag. The back half is a genuinely funny, wide ranging conversation about tobacco and nicotine culture, Big Pharma's quiet takeover of the pouch market, and why moderation and self awareness might matter more than any strict health routine. They close with practical talk on journaling, intuitive eating, and training by feel.