Our guest in this episode is Amory Lovins, a distinguished environmental scientist, and co-founder of RMI, which he co-founded in 1982 as Rocky Mountain Institute. It’s what he calls a think do and scale tank, with 700 people in 62 countries, and a budget of well over $100m a year. For over five decades, Amory has championed innovative approaches to energy systems, advocating for a world where energy services are delivered with least cost and least impact. He has advised all manner of governments, companies, and NGOs, and published 31 books and over 900 papers. It’s an over-used word, but in this case it is justified: Amory is a true thought leader in the global energy transition. Selected follow-ups: Inside Amory's Brain - RMI Get to know us - RMI Books by Amory B. Lovins - Goodreads Reinventing Fire - RMI Integrative Design: A Practice to Tackle Complex Challenges - Stanford d.school What is Integrative Design? - RMI Music: Spike Protein, by Koi Discovery, available under CC0 1.0 Public Domain Declaration How Hacks Happen Hacks, scams, cyber crimes, and other shenanigans explored and explained. Presented... Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify