"Love should be seen as something which in a sense never ‘is’ but is always only ‘becoming’, and what it becomes depends up on the contribution of both persons and the depth of their commitment.” ~ Karol Wojtyła Why doesn't arousal come as easily as we expected? How do we make opportunities for intimacy when life is so busy? How can I have honest conversations with my spouse about arousal and our sex life? In Episode 83 of This Whole Life , Pat & Kenna are joined by guest Trisha McKeever, LMFT for Part 2 of the "Holy Sex" series, focusing on arousal within marriage. With honesty, humor, and vulnerability, they explore the real-life intricacies of intimacy, including the challenges of noticing, naming, and cultivating arousal amidst the busyness of family life. The conversation breaks down common myths around arousal, embracing the idea that self-awareness and willingness play key roles in developing a healthy sexual relationship. Drawing from clinical practice and Christian principles, they discuss practical steps couples can take to recognize and communicate their needs, address internal and external “blocks,” and honor each other’s differences — whether you’re a “rocket” or an “airplane.” Tune in for relatable stories, expert insights, and actionable advice that will encourage couples to integrate faith, emotional awareness, and authentic connection in the bedroom and beyond. Trisha McKeever is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Minnesota and has been in private practice for 10 years. She is passionate about incorporating her own Christian beliefs and her perspective as a believer into the healing work that she does with her clients. Trisha also brings the wisdom of 19 years of marriage, and she is the mother of three children. Episode 83 Show Notes Chapters: 0:00: Introduction and Highs & Hards 15:01: What does arousal really mean? 24:37: Choosing arousal & openness 30:33: When the brakes get engaged 37:51: Communicating about arousal with my spouse 46:32: Gender differences in arousal & readiness 56:00: Challenge By Choice Reflection Questions: What is one specific thing that stuck with you from this conversation? How do you define “arousal” in the context of your own marriage or relationship? What are some “blocks” or “brakes” that you have experienced in your sexual relationship? How might you begin to address them? Can you think of a time when a small “yes” led to greater intimacy or connection? Send us a text. We can't respond directly, but we're excited to hear what's on your mind! Click here to register for the DBT group from Jan. 20 - March 24, 2026 (MN & WI residents only) Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com , and send us an email with your thoughts, questions, or ideas. Follow us on Instagram & Facebook Interested in more faith-filled mental health resources? Check out the Martin Center for Integration Music: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller . Used with permission.
