On this episode of Barely Famous, Kail sits down with Elle Bee a creator who’s been in her orbit for years—friend, foe, and everything in between.
They talk about what it’s really like to build a platform around reality TV, how “tea” pages get sources, and why the internet’s obsession with dragging people can turn toxic fast. From the messy ethics of misinformation to the way audiences reward negativity, the conversation turns unexpectedly thoughtful—especially when Kail opens up about cycles, relationships, and what it takes to actually do the work in therapy when real life doesn’t slow down.
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